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Let the political pandering end here.

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Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property.
You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you.

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Actually, they're trying now to make it a "hate crime" to display a Confederate flag at all. So yes, they're trying to take it away from us.

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Well, it hasn't stopped there, nor is it going to stop there...

Walmart, Amazon, Sears, eBay stop selling Confederate flag - CNNPolitics.com

NAACP: Blast Confederate generals off Stone Mountain | AL.com

Confederate Flags Stolen After Social Media Ignites #NoFlagginChallenge - NBC News

And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that...

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It's their businesses. If they don't want to sell an item it's their prerogative. So you don't want people to tell you not to fly the flag but you want to tell a business what it can and can't sell?
You can buy flags at any number of places and can fly it freely on your property without any repercussion from the law or goverment.

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If people believe that Southern people were the only ones that had slaves, they can also do some looking into how many were owned by Northern people flying the stars and stripes, is it next? What about the Panther paws or whatever they call it, its symbole of the Black Panthers? Their is plenty of blame to go around when it comes to hatred. Their is no race that has not seen their share of slavery or hate crimes committed. Empires were built that way throughout history.Are all those flags going to be ban also?

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I will repeat this once again

The Fleur-de-Lis is a "flower of the lily."

The Roman Catholic Church ascribed the lily as the special emblem of the Virgin Mary.

Due to its three "petals," the fleur-de-lis has also been used to represent the Holy Trinity

So it is a religious symbol thus falls under the separation of church and state debate if anything.

the saints are not in that topic.

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72 S T A T .] PUBLIC LAW 85-426-MAY 23, 1958 133
Public Law 85-424
May 22, 1958

Public Law 85-425
AN ACT
To increase the monthly rates of pension payable to widows and former widows
of deceasetl veterans of the Spanish-American War, Civil War, Indian War,
and Mexican War, and provide i)enslons to widows of veterans who served
in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America during
the Civil War.

Be it enacted hy the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Veterans'
l:Jenefits Act of 1957 (Public Law 85-56) is amended:

(3) Section 432 is amended by adding at the end thereof the
following new subsection:

"(e) For the purpose of this section, and section 433, the term
'veteran' includes a person who served in the military or naval forces
of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War, and the
term 'active, military or naval service' includes active service in such
forces."

(( CONFEDERATE FORCES VETERANS
"SEC. 410. The Administrator shall pay to each person who served
in the military or naval forces of the Confederate States of America
during the Civil War a monthly pension in the same amounts and
subject to the same conditions as would have been applicable to such

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE...E-72-Pg133.pdf

In short all confederate soldiers were recognized as US military.

then there is this

Public Law 85-811
August 28, 1958 ^^ ^ ^ '^
[S- 3882] To amend the Act of July 1, 1948, chapter 791 (24 U. S. C. 279a), providing for
the procurement and supply of Government headstones and markers.
G o v e r n m e n t
headstones.
Be it enacted hy the Senate and House of Representati'ves of the
United States of America in Congress assenibled, That the first senprocurement,
tence of the
first section of the Act of July 1, 1948, chapter 791 (24
62 Stat. 1215. ^ g Q 279a), is amended to read as follows:

"That the Secretary of the Army is authorized and directed to furnish,
when requested, appropriate Government headstones or markers
at the expense of the ITnited States for the unmarked graves of the
following:
"(1) Soldiers of the Union and Confederate Armies of the Civil
War.
Approved August 28, 1958.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE...E-72-Pg977.pdf

Both acts were to help in the healing process of this country.

So removal of confederate officers is really the removal of American soldiers.

great example of how a relocation of a flag can lead to breaking of federal laws.

So this confederacy war path needs to go to court. federal laws are being broken and the spirit of heeling a nation in which these laws were passed is unraveling. We are heading back 100 years in race relations in this country not forwards.

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Idea to end debate and make everyone equal.

Everyone should dress alike.
Screw hair styling - require shaving heads.
Homes should become housing with all furnishing the same.
Eliminate individuality and punish for personality.

Cities should be bulldozed.
We need to ensure everyone and everything is equal.
Then no one will suffer from feeling oppressed because we will all be oppressed.
No one offended.

Reminds me of a few things
Does it remind you of anything?

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Gift wrapped for the masses to show how racist a person was for shooting an innocent thief.
The news channel's are so hopeful that this happens.

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I can't imagine America would've elected a black president in 1915.

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:lolup: made my morning. point made.

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This is now a mute issue. Sounds like the City and all those that want the symbols removed are now going to cash in on slavery yet again. So much for complaining about old wounds. time to make us some money

Slave ship museum? wth is going on down there

I would think if adding Slavery attractions to the tourist industry would only be accented even more things like Lee Circle. The whole story is told.

Hypocrisy taken to the extreme.

If this does not get you a legal reason to block any and all removals of civil war veterans I do not know what would.

Inclusion is better than subtraction when dealing with equality. lawyers hate it but the truth is plain to see

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So you're telling me that a baker has the right to NOT make a wedding cake for a gay couple? You're also telling me that a pastor doesn't have to marry a gay couple? That individual States can choose not to allow gay marriage?

Seeing how the federal government is making people do the above, I'd say personal preogative and freedom is being taken away from the people.

I may be off base, but isn't that the type of thing that started the Revolutionary and Civil War? States being able to govern their own laws.

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Well, once the statue is down, there will be no more racism in New Orleans :/

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Those first two examples are totally unlike the third. If a baker doesn't want to serve a customer or a pastor does not want to marry a gay couple, that's entirely a matter for them as private individuals. They can presumably choose to do (or not do) the same for African-Americans, Hispanics or Jews. Probably not great PR or good for business though.

Your third example queries whether a State can enact legislation to override federal law and discriminate against an entire class of people by denying them the ability to enter into the contract of marriage. In fact, I don't really understand your point.

I think we can all agree that Junior Galette is a d*ck though.

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... "racist" is old-school/outdated anyway ... the new vernacular being bandied about is "white supremacist" , :neutral:.