Is the flour De Lis Offensive.

The Dude · 07-13-2015, 09:07 PM

No. It is history and was a symbol in Europe way before it was brought here. I can see how some may find the Rebel Flag offensive mostly because of the fact that it has been adopted and bastardized by hate groups as a symbol of hate. To me the flag in and of itself is not offensive but the fact it has been used to signify hate ruined it of any historical signifigance. There is a difference between history and hate.

QBREES9 · 07-13-2015, 11:35 PM

This crap is way out of hand.

Beastmode · 07-13-2015, 11:43 PM

If we do go this route people need to understand some overlooked facts:

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

Shame on the family seems to have more than one color in New Orleans.

bobdog86 · 07-14-2015, 02:06 AM

Give em an inch, they'll take a mile……………...

burningmetal · 07-14-2015, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

If we do go this route people need to understand some overlooked facts:

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

Shame on the family seems to have more than one color in New Orleans.

Whoa now. We don't want the revisionist "historians" to have to re-rewrite history. It could change the almighty hate stirring narrative - which people who claim to be above hatred- know and love.

Tobias-Reiper · 07-14-2015, 10:54 PM

Why are y'all getting so riled up over click bait?

saintfan · 07-14-2015, 11:25 PM

It took us, what, 33 years to win a playoff game?

I'd say that's pretty offensive. I'm offended.

burningmetal · 07-14-2015, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Why are y'all getting so riled up over click bait?

Click bait? Have you been watching the world around us lately? This is real life happening, not some TMZ gossip topic.

Beastmode · 07-15-2015, 12:18 AM

This is getting beyond carried away. 3000 slaves were owned by black slave owners in New Orleans. I feel confident there are descendents of those black slave owners still living in the city who are Saints fans and never had a problem with it.

The only problem I see here are organizations that refuse to let it go. At some point, the United Negro College fund will be racist along with the NAACP which is real close to right now. There is nobody left who was a slave or slave owner. There is no government agency or official who thinks any race is superior. If anything, those organizations do more harm than good right now because their whole existence depends upon the strength of racism. Without it, they die.

Tobias-Reiper · 07-15-2015, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Click bait? Have you been watching the world around us lately? This is real life happening, not some TMZ gossip topic.

*Sees link... sees CSC... is confused by comment... *

I watch the world around me all the time.

Now, I don't always read about it from alleged "journalistic" sources, and when I do, I prefer Knob Creek, and take it as mere entertainment.

07-13-2015, 09:07 PM	#21
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. No. It is history and was a symbol in Europe way before it was brought here. I can see how some may find the Rebel Flag offensive mostly because of the fact that it has been adopted and bastardized by hate groups as a symbol of hate. To me the flag in and of itself is not offensive but the fact it has been used to signify hate ruined it of any historical signifigance. There is a difference between history and hate.
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048

07-13-2015, 11:35 PM	#22
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. This crap is way out of hand. SloMotion likes this.

07-13-2015, 11:43 PM	#23
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. If we do go this route people need to understand some overlooked facts: By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone. Shame on the family seems to have more than one color in New Orleans.
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126

07-14-2015, 02:06 AM	#24
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,406	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. Give em an inch, they'll take a mile……………... RaginCajun83 likes this.

07-14-2015, 05:14 AM	#25
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. Originally Posted by Beastmode If we do go this route people need to understand some overlooked facts: By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone. Shame on the family seems to have more than one color in New Orleans. Whoa now. We don't want the revisionist "historians" to have to re-rewrite history. It could change the almighty hate stirring narrative - which people who claim to be above hatred- know and love.

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

07-14-2015, 10:54 PM	#26
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. Why are y'all getting so riled up over click bait?

07-14-2015, 11:25 PM	#27
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. It took us, what, 33 years to win a playoff game? I'd say that's pretty offensive. I'm offended. hagan714 likes this.

07-14-2015, 11:46 PM	#28
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Why are y'all getting so riled up over click bait? Click bait? Have you been watching the world around us lately? This is real life happening, not some TMZ gossip topic.

07-15-2015, 12:18 AM	#29
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. This is getting beyond carried away. 3000 slaves were owned by black slave owners in New Orleans. I feel confident there are descendents of those black slave owners still living in the city who are Saints fans and never had a problem with it. The only problem I see here are organizations that refuse to let it go. At some point, the United Negro College fund will be racist along with the NAACP which is real close to right now. There is nobody left who was a slave or slave owner. There is no government agency or official who thinks any race is superior. If anything, those organizations do more harm than good right now because their whole existence depends upon the strength of racism. Without it, they die.
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126

07-15-2015, 01:07 AM	#30
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Is the flour De Lis Offensive. Originally Posted by burningmetal Click bait? Have you been watching the world around us lately? This is real life happening, not some TMZ gossip topic. Sees link... sees CSC... is confused by comment... I watch the world around me all the time. Now, I don't always read about it from alleged "journalistic" sources, and when I do, I prefer Knob Creek, and take it as mere entertainment.

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/73137-flour-de-lis-offensive.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	07-12-2015 11:15 PM	1
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	07-12-2015 05:38 PM	1
Is the flour De Lis Offensive.	This thread	Refback	07-12-2015 02:45 PM	5