Looks like Deuce wants top-5 money..

LKelley67 · 02-02-2005, 11:33 PM

i knew mentioning simply the idea of even trading deuce would invoke a hailstorm. let me reitterate, i love him and think he the kind of back that can carry a team a long ways. i do not however think even that player should be retained at ANY price. it is said he wants portis/tomlinson money and the club is offering priest holmes money. port/tom are getting 6mil+ a yr for 8 yrs, 17-21mil guaranteed. i couldnt find holmes numbers but it is thought to be in the top 5 and that it is 10mil guaranteed. corey dillon signed with the pats for 3.8 mil so i guess holmes is 5ish mil 2-3 yrs guaranteed. can this kind of chasm be crossed? possibly. did you know he is still obligated to 2 more yrs on the current contract at 470k a yr? i know he\'ll holdout before doing that. [a side note is that i do have a beef that professional athletes demand a contract redo when their performance exceeds the mkt rate terms of their contract but get to take the money and run if they decide to skate or flake out ala bubblebutt sullivan] this type of scenario is why you see teams franchise a player year after year( ex: w. jones),-usually a top flight player but they cannot come to common ground. it is imperative for success in the cap world to not overpay a player a couple of million a year. that isnt even talking about the 10-20+ mil signing bonus impact either. the team is in the driver\'s seat with deuce. his only negotiating leverage is holding out. reach agreement or the team can throw enough bonus money at him without a contract redo to get him to play and say we\'ll work on it next winter (since another yr on current contract). let him prove he can get in shape and bounce back to \'03 form then sign him to top 5 money. it sounds like if they franchised him he would get less money than what the team is offering. i\'m sorry, it sounds like the team is offering further than what many teams would. my trade scenario was that the idea of being able to get benson, cadillac, or ronnie brown (and have them for 4-5 yrs at 500k) plus a 2nd this year and a first next is a reasonable option to paying a rb 8-10% of an entire teams cap.

02-02-2005, 11:33 PM	#21
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Looks like Deuce wants top-5 money.. i knew mentioning simply the idea of even trading deuce would invoke a hailstorm. let me reitterate, i love him and think he the kind of back that can carry a team a long ways. i do not however think even that player should be retained at ANY price. it is said he wants portis/tomlinson money and the club is offering priest holmes money. port/tom are getting 6mil+ a yr for 8 yrs, 17-21mil guaranteed. i couldnt find holmes numbers but it is thought to be in the top 5 and that it is 10mil guaranteed. corey dillon signed with the pats for 3.8 mil so i guess holmes is 5ish mil 2-3 yrs guaranteed. can this kind of chasm be crossed? possibly. did you know he is still obligated to 2 more yrs on the current contract at 470k a yr? i know he\'ll holdout before doing that. [a side note is that i do have a beef that professional athletes demand a contract redo when their performance exceeds the mkt rate terms of their contract but get to take the money and run if they decide to skate or flake out ala bubblebutt sullivan] this type of scenario is why you see teams franchise a player year after year( ex: w. jones),-usually a top flight player but they cannot come to common ground. it is imperative for success in the cap world to not overpay a player a couple of million a year. that isnt even talking about the 10-20+ mil signing bonus impact either. the team is in the driver\'s seat with deuce. his only negotiating leverage is holding out. reach agreement or the team can throw enough bonus money at him without a contract redo to get him to play and say we\'ll work on it next winter (since another yr on current contract). let him prove he can get in shape and bounce back to \'03 form then sign him to top 5 money. it sounds like if they franchised him he would get less money than what the team is offering. i\'m sorry, it sounds like the team is offering further than what many teams would. my trade scenario was that the idea of being able to get benson, cadillac, or ronnie brown (and have them for 4-5 yrs at 500k) plus a 2nd this year and a first next is a reasonable option to paying a rb 8-10% of an entire teams cap.