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The Dude 08-08-2015 04:23 PM

Re: Saints Defense Repeated Offenses
 
I thought they dumbed down and simplified the playbook.

vtiger72 08-08-2015 05:04 PM

Re: Saints Defense Repeated Offenses
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 661996)
I thought they dumbed down and simplified the playbook.

If that was the plan, then Ryan should be canned and a defensive coordinator who excels in that should have been brought it.

Ryan's forte is multiple schemes and confusing the offenses. He likes to bring the rush from strange places and disguise his coverages. That sounds great, and when it works, it is a thing to behold.

The drawback with that is that it takes strong leadership among the players on the field to get everyone lined up. It also requires versatility among those players. If players aren't well-versed in it, then confusion can happen easily. This is compounded by the reputation that Ryan is a creative thinker but not the best teacher.

I had hoped all offseason the Saints would make a change. With the personnel we had on defense and the need to get back to a details apporach on the field, I never believed Ryan was the man for the job.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think the task given to Ryan is not one he is suited for.

K Major 08-12-2015 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 661995)
Fundamentals. Back to the basics.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS.

ikecomp 08-12-2015 10:25 AM

Re: Saints Defense Repeated Offenses
 
Going to be completely honest and I thought this the moment they brought in Dennis Allen. If 6 or so games into the season the defense isn't looking any better they will fire Rob and elevate Dennis to D-coordinator.

I don't think payton will have the patience to keep ryan on for the entire season if the defense is still looking confused. Especially with the attention they placed on defense this offseason (bringing over browner, drafting a bunch of defensive players, etc).

I really like Rob as a person but it's time to produce like he did his first season (or at least get us to a middle of the pack defense) or we can't keep him around.

darstep 08-13-2015 06:16 AM

Re: Saints Defense Repeated Offenses
 
If we could just fix the missed tackles from last year, we could probably add two more possessions per game.
That was a problem seems like every week.
We even had trouble getting off the field when we had teams in 3rd and long.
The difference between 2nd-and-8 AND 2nd-and-2 is HUGE.
If we start to control the line of scrimmage, everything on the back end will improve.
It is still 11 on 11, and at most, 5-6 people in your space.
I'm hoping our new additions can get the job done in the moments that change the game.

spkb25 08-13-2015 06:24 AM

Re: Saints Defense Repeated Offenses
 
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Originally Posted by darstep (Post 662539)
If we could just fix the missed tackles from last year, we could probably add two more possessions per game.
That was a problem seems like every week.
We even had trouble getting off the field when we had teams in 3rd and long.
The difference between 2nd-and-8 AND 2nd-and-2 is HUGE.
If we start to control the line of scrimmage, everything on the back end will improve.
It is still 11 on 11, and at most, 5-6 people in your space.
I'm hoping our new additions can get the job done in the moments that change the game.

Yeah, and get some frigan pressure on the opposing qb...


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