Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints

dizzle88 · 08-14-2015, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Yes, and it was quite noticeable wasn't it.

Definitely, they showed SJB playing man coverage on a replay and his coverage looked excellent, quicker hips on turning from a back pedal and running stride for stride with the receiver, he even made a nice tackle on the running back.

As for cooks, if we can use him properly the sky is the limit.

skymike · 08-14-2015, 09:15 AM

We're going back to Greenbriar to fix this.

skymike · 08-14-2015, 09:18 AM

We're going to clean this up in camp this week

If Bruce Jenner trained in Mississippi, he'd still be a man.

CharityMike · 08-14-2015, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

We're going back to Greenbriar to fix this.

Then after a few games...

frydaddy · 08-14-2015, 03:50 PM

I'm not terribly worried about the results of this game. The staggering amount of penalties are probably the only thing that bother me right now. Would've liked to see the D line get more push, but I wasn't expecting much there either. Remember folks, this was the first game and they didn't even look at any film on the Ravens until Tuesday night. Then they traveled Wednesday, so I doubt they watched anything more than that. No specific game planning for them, just putting guys on the field to see how they look in live action. Lots of things need to be worked on, but there's still a fair amount of time to do it.

At this point it's still about finding out the right group of players for the right situations. If they're really committed to picking the "right 53" this year, and I believe they are, then some of these presumed starters might need to give way to younger guys. Seems like a few of them are hungrier for the job than the vets.

We'll see how this plays out. Still almost a month before the season starts. The playbook isn't even fully installed yet. I think we'll be alright. Despite all the bad, I saw several bright spots. Just gotta build on those and move forward.

Cruize · 08-14-2015, 09:23 AM

-Griffin should be the #2. He's better than McNown and will either have value in a trade or will be a great backup when Grayson takes over.
-Robinson is a beast. I list him as 1b to Ingram being 1a.
-If Spiller doesn't get healthy, he might be cut or put on bring back IR.
-Hightower still has it or he's got it back.
-Murphy is a legit return guy. He has it.
-Cooks just needs to stay healthy. Has ALL the skills.
-Joe Morgan has the skills.
-Snead makes the team.
-Every other WR is in the numbers game. Nothing to get excited about.
-Hill suprised me. He's not Jimmy but he doesn't have to be.
-The OLine was good overall.
-A personal apology to Peat. Sorry big fella. You got it.

-The starting DLine was a no show. Just like last year.
-The backup DLine showed big potential.
-Jenkins is just a big dude. Nothing special.
-Anthony has the skills. Needs reps at the NFL level.
-Kikaha is hardworking. Lack of speed shows a little outside the box.
-Spencer has the skills. Potential sack/pressure guy.
-Don't sleep on Coley. Dude deserves more reps. Just a football player.
-The safeties are just not impressive to me.
-SJB shut his side down. Just sayin'.

-Swann has potential.
-Two young kickers with BIG legs. Maybe the Saints can steal a 6th for the non-winner if a team has a need.

3 big injuries to the D. Get well soon Browner, Breaux, and Ellerbe.
Losing confidence in Ryan. Not getting results.

spkb25 · 08-14-2015, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

-Griffin should be the #2. He's better than McNown and will either have value in a trade or will be a great backup when Grayson takes over.
-Robinson is a beast. I list him as 1b to Ingram being 1a.
-If Spiller doesn't get healthy, he might be cut or put on bring back IR.
-Hightower still has it or he's got it back.
-Murphy is a legit return guy. He has it.
-Cooks just needs to stay healthy. Has ALL the skills.
-Joe Morgan has the skills.
-Snead makes the team.
-Every other WR is in the numbers game. Nothing to get excited about.
-Hill suprised me. He's not Jimmy but he doesn't have to be.
-The OLine was good overall.
-A personal apology to Peat. Sorry big fella. You got it.

-The starting DLine was a no show. Just like last year.
-The backup DLine showed big potential.
-Jenkins is just a big dude. Nothing special.
-Anthony has the skills. Needs reps at the NFL level.
-Kikaha is hardworking. Lack of speed shows a little outside the box.
-Spencer has the skills. Potential sack/pressure guy.
-Don't sleep on Coley. Dude deserves more reps. Just a football player.
-The safeties are just not impressive to me.
-SJB shut his side down. Just sayin'.
-Swann has potential.
-Two young kickers with BIG legs. Maybe the Saints can steal a 6th for the non-winner if a team has a need.

3 big injuries to the D. Get well soon Browner, Breaux, and Ellerbe.
Losing confidence in Ryan. Not getting results.

Really good post boss

Rugby Saint II · 08-14-2015, 11:50 AM

I'll give them an F+

SaintsBro · 08-14-2015, 12:02 PM

I'd seriously give them an F, at least with the 1's. 14-0 and two 3 and outs, with the starters in there. It's not the most sophisticated in-depth way to judge or analyze, but I do pay attention to what happens in preseason when the real 1's are in there on both sides of the ball. We looked absolutely terrible without Drew (God help us!), and we looked absolutely terrible on D, even at what was supposed to be close to full strength. We stank against both Flacco and Schaub, who are both considered decent to very good QB's like something we might face in a real game. The rest of the team probably graded higher in scrubs vs. scrubs. But it's gonna be a long preseason now.

The Dude · 08-14-2015, 01:50 PM

Very impressed with young QBs. We might have a franchise guy in one of them but that's not gonna help this year. I liked Snead, all the running backs looks good. It will be nice to have a stable like that for the next couple years as Drew ages. Kicking game finally doesn't scare me and I liked all the draft picks. Even Pete looked decent.
Yes our first string D got butt raped but most of those guys were rookies who have never experienced going up against a pro team and players who weren't on the team last year. It's not surprising they are a little lost.
8-8 or 9-7 is my guess at this point.

08-14-2015, 02:34 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,560	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints Originally Posted by Danno Yes, and it was quite noticeable wasn't it. Definitely, they showed SJB playing man coverage on a replay and his coverage looked excellent, quicker hips on turning from a back pedal and running stride for stride with the receiver, he even made a nice tackle on the running back. As for cooks, if we can use him properly the sky is the limit.

08-14-2015, 09:18 AM	#3
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08-14-2015, 03:24 PM	#4
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints Originally Posted by skymike We're going back to Greenbriar to fix this. Then after a few games... spkb25, skymike and brees84 like this.

08-14-2015, 03:50 PM	#5
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,965 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints I'm not terribly worried about the results of this game. The staggering amount of penalties are probably the only thing that bother me right now. Would've liked to see the D line get more push, but I wasn't expecting much there either. Remember folks, this was the first game and they didn't even look at any film on the Ravens until Tuesday night. Then they traveled Wednesday, so I doubt they watched anything more than that. No specific game planning for them, just putting guys on the field to see how they look in live action. Lots of things need to be worked on, but there's still a fair amount of time to do it. At this point it's still about finding out the right group of players for the right situations. If they're really committed to picking the "right 53" this year, and I believe they are, then some of these presumed starters might need to give way to younger guys. Seems like a few of them are hungrier for the job than the vets. We'll see how this plays out. Still almost a month before the season starts. The playbook isn't even fully installed yet. I think we'll be alright. Despite all the bad, I saw several bright spots. Just gotta build on those and move forward. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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08-14-2015, 09:23 AM	#6
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints -Griffin should be the #2. He's better than McNown and will either have value in a trade or will be a great backup when Grayson takes over. -Robinson is a beast. I list him as 1b to Ingram being 1a. -If Spiller doesn't get healthy, he might be cut or put on bring back IR. -Hightower still has it or he's got it back. -Murphy is a legit return guy. He has it. -Cooks just needs to stay healthy. Has ALL the skills. -Joe Morgan has the skills. -Snead makes the team. -Every other WR is in the numbers game. Nothing to get excited about. -Hill suprised me. He's not Jimmy but he doesn't have to be. -The OLine was good overall. -A personal apology to Peat. Sorry big fella. You got it. -The starting DLine was a no show. Just like last year. -The backup DLine showed big potential. -Jenkins is just a big dude. Nothing special. -Anthony has the skills. Needs reps at the NFL level. -Kikaha is hardworking. Lack of speed shows a little outside the box. -Spencer has the skills. Potential sack/pressure guy. -Don't sleep on Coley. Dude deserves more reps. Just a football player. -The safeties are just not impressive to me. -SJB shut his side down. Just sayin'. -Swann has potential. -Two young kickers with BIG legs. Maybe the Saints can steal a 6th for the non-winner if a team has a need. 3 big injuries to the D. Get well soon Browner, Breaux, and Ellerbe. Losing confidence in Ryan. Not getting results. spkb25, Rugby Saint II and MarchingOn like this.
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08-14-2015, 09:15 AM	#2
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints We're going back to Greenbriar to fix this. saintfan, jnormand, xan and 7 others like this.

08-14-2015, 03:16 PM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints Originally Posted by Cruize -Griffin should be the #2. He's better than McNown and will either have value in a trade or will be a great backup when Grayson takes over. -Robinson is a beast. I list him as 1b to Ingram being 1a. -If Spiller doesn't get healthy, he might be cut or put on bring back IR. -Hightower still has it or he's got it back. -Murphy is a legit return guy. He has it. -Cooks just needs to stay healthy. Has ALL the skills. -Joe Morgan has the skills. -Snead makes the team. -Every other WR is in the numbers game. Nothing to get excited about. -Hill suprised me. He's not Jimmy but he doesn't have to be. -The OLine was good overall. -A personal apology to Peat. Sorry big fella. You got it. -The starting DLine was a no show. Just like last year. -The backup DLine showed big potential. -Jenkins is just a big dude. Nothing special. -Anthony has the skills. Needs reps at the NFL level. -Kikaha is hardworking. Lack of speed shows a little outside the box. -Spencer has the skills. Potential sack/pressure guy. -Don't sleep on Coley. Dude deserves more reps. Just a football player. -The safeties are just not impressive to me. -SJB shut his side down. Just sayin'. -Swann has potential. -Two young kickers with BIG legs. Maybe the Saints can steal a 6th for the non-winner if a team has a need. 3 big injuries to the D. Get well soon Browner, Breaux, and Ellerbe. Losing confidence in Ryan. Not getting results. Really good post boss hagan714 likes this.

08-14-2015, 11:50 AM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints I'll give them an F+ skymike likes this.

08-14-2015, 12:02 PM	#9
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints I'd seriously give them an F, at least with the 1's. 14-0 and two 3 and outs, with the starters in there. It's not the most sophisticated in-depth way to judge or analyze, but I do pay attention to what happens in preseason when the real 1's are in there on both sides of the ball. We looked absolutely terrible without Drew (God help us!), and we looked absolutely terrible on D, even at what was supposed to be close to full strength. We stank against both Flacco and Schaub, who are both considered decent to very good QB's like something we might face in a real game. The rest of the team probably graded higher in scrubs vs. scrubs. But it's gonna be a long preseason now. 44Champs likes this.

08-14-2015, 01:50 PM	#10
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: Saints vs. Ravens: Grades, Notes and Quotes for Saints Very impressed with young QBs. We might have a franchise guy in one of them but that's not gonna help this year. I liked Snead, all the running backs looks good. It will be nice to have a stable like that for the next couple years as Drew ages. Kicking game finally doesn't scare me and I liked all the draft picks. Even Pete looked decent. Yes our first string D got butt raped but most of those guys were rookies who have never experienced going up against a pro team and players who weren't on the team last year. It's not surprising they are a little lost. 8-8 or 9-7 is my guess at this point.
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