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Fire Venturi
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Not to long ago one of our guys here posted under the name Fire Venturi. So Venturi was here about 8 years before he went to St. Louis. I think we need to push this process a little quicker this ...
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08-16-2015, 02:35 PM
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Fire Venturi
Not to long ago one of our guys here posted under the name Fire Venturi.
So Venturi was here about 8 years before he went to St. Louis. I think we need to push this process a little quicker this time with RR. |
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08-16-2015, 04:35 PM
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It's not Rob's fault our defense sucks. It's Sean Payton's. He's a meddling a$$ fool. How can Rob be successful when Payton brings in a "defensive assistant" who completely changes everything?
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08-16-2015, 04:47 PM
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Re: Fire Venturi
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI
Rob should either not have let it come to this or he should walk in to Payton's office and state that either he's in charge of the defense or he should go somewhere else...
If he's letting Payton run roughshod over him like this, it's on Ryan... Personally, I don't get spending two draft picks to move up and draft John Jenkins, then... Drafting and acquiring Ronald Powell, Stephone Anthony, Hau'oli Kikaha, Davis Tull and Dannell Ellerbe... Only to have our best DT/NT lose 25+ pounds (Hicks) and play defensive end... Move a slow, prodding 3-4 DE in Jordan to a 4-3 DE that is somehow going to be faster... If it is Payton, he is doing to the defense what his double reverse did for his play calling reputation... |
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08-16-2015, 04:54 PM
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We have another losing season a lot of ppl will be gone.....
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08-16-2015, 05:04 PM
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Meanwhile the Feaggles and Coach Chip managed 4 turnovers today against the colts.
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08-16-2015, 05:08 PM
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Re: Fire Venturi
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI
you're not serious...there was no one here but Rob last year. His own players said they couldn't move because they were thinking too much due to how overly complicated the defense was.
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08-16-2015, 05:09 PM
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Re: Fire Venturi
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
What are you talking about man? You question why Rob Ryan is to blame but then you list a gazillion reasons that prove my point that Rob isn't to blame.
It's Payton!! He can't leave the defense alone so anytime he sees something he doesn't like he makes sweeping changes. |
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08-16-2015, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
This is not SP. What a load of crap. People are singing this because of one play in preseason where sean said to blitz. They take that one piece of information and start applying it wherever they feel like it.
His own players complained about how complicated the d was last season. In 13 was SP the reason the d was ranked fourth..? My guess is RR didn't have time that year to over complicate it. Who's fault was it in Dallas, SP? |
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08-16-2015, 07:36 PM
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Re: Fire Venturi
I think its Payton's fault Vitt, Johnson, and Mc Griff are still there. I think most these guys have been there since Spagnolo or before then and we yielded the same results. If you look at it from a business stand point Rob is the manager while vitt and then are assistant managers that actually are the true hands ppl towards the players in there respected positions. So if the defense was horrible before Rob took over I highly doubt firing Rob and getting another DC while keeping Vitt and company will make the defense solid. Not backing Rob but i think Payton if this year is another crap year fire Rob, Vitt as linebacker coach, Johnson, and Mc Griff and start new across the board.
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08-16-2015, 11:31 PM
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Re: Fire Venturi
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
We picked the wrong NT in the 3rd round that year. Brandon Thompson who the Raven took at the bottom of that round was the correct selection.
Evidence: he's the starting NT for the Ravens who ensured our starters could do nothing in the middle. Pushed the pocket back into our QB's face, too. He was another small school stud like Armstead (who we took earlier that round). Wow, 3rd round has been kind to us lately (Jimmy Graham, Armstead, hopefully Grayson and PJ). Hoping Jenkins returns to rookie form and wonder if it is attitude, conditioning, or run-slowing weight. |
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