Our Running Game last night.

Crusader · 08-24-2015, 02:40 AM

Coaches all over the league is trying different things for the 2-point conversions right now. I am actually starting to believe that there will be an interesting play after most TDs instead of the usual ZZZZZZZZzzz...

The running game looked a bit stale but I'm not really worried. Most of our backs are the type of player that gets better the more carries they get and neither did get very many. I am not sold on Hightower thou.

Rugby Saint II · 08-24-2015, 03:38 PM

I've been pulling for Hightower because I love his story of not giving up. But he looks like the odd man out behind Murphy.
K Robinson could be our best back.

dizzle88 · 08-24-2015, 04:00 PM

Marcus Murphy has some serious speed, at least we have a clone of CJ Spiller if he doesn't stay healthy.

Mr.Riaton · 08-24-2015, 04:19 PM

I don't think the longer field goals are in stone yet. I think its just for preseason.

Cruize · 08-24-2015, 05:20 PM

Save the 2 PT plays for the regular season. Nobody will have any tape on them. More importantly, the kickers need the kicks. As far as the running game goes, I would prefer less hits on Ingram and Robinson. Maybe give Murphy some 1st team reps if you want to work on the blocking and see what he's got. He's clearly the return guy. But, the WR's need ALL the reps they can get in the passing game outside of Colston and Cooks. Snead has been the most impressive and he's looked at as the 5th WR. Coleman, Joe Morgan, Snead, and Jones need all the work they can get. The less mystery when the games that matter start, the better.

Danno · 08-24-2015, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

I don't think the longer field goals are in stone yet. I think its just for preseason.

Its for the regular season too. I hate it.

Marlboro Man · 08-25-2015, 01:41 AM

I've only watched the first two drives but Ingram took the wrong read at least twice in those two drives.

SaintsBro · 08-25-2015, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway.

I have actually noticed it being done a couple of times by other teams, in various other preseason games so far this year. In fact, teams already have attempted more two-point plays so far this year, than they did during all 65 games of the 2014 preseason. It's something to do with the rule change, but nobody is sure what it means.

Most teams are not quite as extreme about it as Payton, going EVERY time, but that's why he's Sean Payton.

Here's an article about it.

Inside Slant: Two-point attempts are way up -- will it continue? - NFL Nation - ESPN

saintsfan1976 · 08-25-2015, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Its for the regular season too. I hate it.

Here's my take.

The NFL avg success rate for 2pt conversions is around 50%.

The Chicago Bears are an amazing 11 for 13 on 2pt conversions over the last three years!
Team Two Point Conversion Statistics: 2014 NFL Season

Moving the kick back will lower the success rate and depending on the weather could dramatically affect the success rate.

So in the end, one team goes for 1. The other for 2. After two TD's by each team you could be tied at 14 anyway.

Why not pressure the other team, especially if you feel there's an advantage?

Danno · 08-25-2015, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Here's my take.

The NFL avg success rate for 2pt conversions is around 50%.

The Chicago Bears are an amazing 11 for 13 on 2pt conversions over the last three years!
Team Two Point Conversion Statistics: 2014 NFL Season

Moving the kick back will lower the success rate and depending on the weather could dramatically affect the success rate.

So in the end, one team goes for 1. The other for 2. After two TD's by each team you could be tied at 14 anyway.

Why not pressure the other team, especially if you feel there's an advantage?

Agreed, but you also have to factor in 2 points the other way.

Its interesting, but I still don't like it. It makes kickers more important than they should be. Its football, not soccer.

08-24-2015, 02:40 AM	#11
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Our Running Game last night. Coaches all over the league is trying different things for the 2-point conversions right now. I am actually starting to believe that there will be an interesting play after most TDs instead of the usual ZZZZZZZZzzz... The running game looked a bit stale but I'm not really worried. Most of our backs are the type of player that gets better the more carries they get and neither did get very many. I am not sold on Hightower thou.

08-24-2015, 03:38 PM	#12
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Our Running Game last night. I've been pulling for Hightower because I love his story of not giving up. But he looks like the odd man out behind Murphy. K Robinson could be our best back.

08-24-2015, 04:00 PM	#13
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Our Running Game last night. Marcus Murphy has some serious speed, at least we have a clone of CJ Spiller if he doesn't stay healthy.

08-24-2015, 04:19 PM	#14
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: Our Running Game last night. I don't think the longer field goals are in stone yet. I think its just for preseason.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Our Running Game last night. Save the 2 PT plays for the regular season. Nobody will have any tape on them. More importantly, the kickers need the kicks. As far as the running game goes, I would prefer less hits on Ingram and Robinson. Maybe give Murphy some 1st team reps if you want to work on the blocking and see what he's got. He's clearly the return guy. But, the WR's need ALL the reps they can get in the passing game outside of Colston and Cooks. Snead has been the most impressive and he's looked at as the 5th WR. Coleman, Joe Morgan, Snead, and Jones need all the work they can get. The less mystery when the games that matter start, the better.
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08-24-2015, 06:23 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton I don't think the longer field goals are in stone yet. I think its just for preseason. Its for the regular season too. I hate it. saintsfan1976 likes this.

08-25-2015, 01:41 AM	#17
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Our Running Game last night. I've only watched the first two drives but Ingram took the wrong read at least twice in those two drives.

08-25-2015, 10:07 AM	#18
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by burningmetal It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway. I have actually noticed it being done a couple of times by other teams, in various other preseason games so far this year. In fact, teams already have attempted more two-point plays so far this year, than they did during all 65 games of the 2014 preseason. It's something to do with the rule change, but nobody is sure what it means. Most teams are not quite as extreme about it as Payton, going EVERY time, but that's why he's Sean Payton. Here's an article about it. Inside Slant: Two-point attempts are way up -- will it continue? - NFL Nation - ESPN

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by Danno Its for the regular season too. I hate it. Here's my take. The NFL avg success rate for 2pt conversions is around 50%. The Chicago Bears are an amazing 11 for 13 on 2pt conversions over the last three years! Team Two Point Conversion Statistics: 2014 NFL Season Moving the kick back will lower the success rate and depending on the weather could dramatically affect the success rate. So in the end, one team goes for 1. The other for 2. After two TD's by each team you could be tied at 14 anyway. Why not pressure the other team, especially if you feel there's an advantage? Danno likes this.

08-25-2015, 12:31 PM	#20
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Here's my take. The NFL avg success rate for 2pt conversions is around 50%. The Chicago Bears are an amazing 11 for 13 on 2pt conversions over the last three years! Team Two Point Conversion Statistics: 2014 NFL Season Moving the kick back will lower the success rate and depending on the weather could dramatically affect the success rate. So in the end, one team goes for 1. The other for 2. After two TD's by each team you could be tied at 14 anyway. Why not pressure the other team, especially if you feel there's an advantage? Agreed, but you also have to factor in 2 points the other way. Its interesting, but I still don't like it. It makes kickers more important than they should be. Its football, not soccer.

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