Our Running Game last night.

burningmetal · 08-23-2015, 02:58 PM

I'm not sure why Payton kept going for two. I didn't see the game, but I read that. I know the PAT is longer now, but that was just weird. It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway.

Danno · 08-23-2015, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm not sure why Payton kept going for two. I didn't see the game, but I read that. I know the PAT is longer now, but that was just weird. It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway.

I think the PAT is basically a known in his mind. I think he just wanted to see how we'd do going for two.

You don't learn a whole lot about your team with a successful PAT, but you learn a lot going for two.

If I was a coach I'd go for two every single time in pre-season.

burningmetal · 08-24-2015, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think the PAT is basically a known in his mind. I think he just wanted to see how we'd do going for two.

You don't learn a whole lot about your team with a successful PAT, but you learn a lot going for two.

If I was a coach I'd go for two every single time in pre-season.

Oh yeah, in preseason I'd do a lot of things differently... Absolutely. I just thought it was weird to see that, because coaches never seem to think outside of the box very often. Instead of working on specific things coaches tend act like they're giving something away if they try it in the preseason. Hence the boring nature of these games.

nola_swammi · 08-23-2015, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm not sure why Payton kept going for two. I didn't see the game, but I read that. I know the PAT is longer now, but that was just weird. It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway.

With PAT no longer guarantees, we gotta compensate missed extra points or game tying situations and they're no better place to work on it than preseason

voodooido · 08-23-2015, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm not sure why Payton kept going for two. I didn't see the game, but I read that. I know the PAT is longer now, but that was just weird. It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway.

I'm not sure why we would kick a PAT at all this preseason. Get all the 2 points conversion attempts you can now. PAT is almost 100%.

burningmetal · 08-24-2015, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I'm not sure why we would kick a PAT at all this preseason. Get all the 2 points conversion attempts you can now. PAT is almost 100%.

The only problem I would have with that is the fact we have a kicker competition going on, and the PAT's are 13 yards longer now. These guys need to be tested, too. But I don't have a problem with them going for two more often.

SaintsBro · 08-25-2015, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway.

I have actually noticed it being done a couple of times by other teams, in various other preseason games so far this year. In fact, teams already have attempted more two-point plays so far this year, than they did during all 65 games of the 2014 preseason. It's something to do with the rule change, but nobody is sure what it means.

Most teams are not quite as extreme about it as Payton, going EVERY time, but that's why he's Sean Payton.

Here's an article about it.

Inside Slant: Two-point attempts are way up -- will it continue? - NFL Nation - ESPN

08-23-2015, 02:58 PM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Running Game last night. I'm not sure why Payton kept going for two. I didn't see the game, but I read that. I know the PAT is longer now, but that was just weird. It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway.

08-23-2015, 03:08 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm not sure why Payton kept going for two. I didn't see the game, but I read that. I know the PAT is longer now, but that was just weird. It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway. I think the PAT is basically a known in his mind. I think he just wanted to see how we'd do going for two. You don't learn a whole lot about your team with a successful PAT, but you learn a lot going for two. If I was a coach I'd go for two every single time in pre-season. Beastmode and MarchingOn like this.

08-24-2015, 12:27 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by Danno I think the PAT is basically a known in his mind. I think he just wanted to see how we'd do going for two. You don't learn a whole lot about your team with a successful PAT, but you learn a lot going for two. If I was a coach I'd go for two every single time in pre-season. Oh yeah, in preseason I'd do a lot of things differently... Absolutely. I just thought it was weird to see that, because coaches never seem to think outside of the box very often. Instead of working on specific things coaches tend act like they're giving something away if they try it in the preseason. Hence the boring nature of these games.

08-23-2015, 03:22 PM	#4
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm not sure why Payton kept going for two. I didn't see the game, but I read that. I know the PAT is longer now, but that was just weird. It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway. With PAT no longer guarantees, we gotta compensate missed extra points or game tying situations and they're no better place to work on it than preseason Danno likes this.

08-23-2015, 09:44 PM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,870	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm not sure why Payton kept going for two. I didn't see the game, but I read that. I know the PAT is longer now, but that was just weird. It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway. I'm not sure why we would kick a PAT at all this preseason. Get all the 2 points conversion attempts you can now. PAT is almost 100%.
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08-24-2015, 12:29 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by voodooido I'm not sure why we would kick a PAT at all this preseason. Get all the 2 points conversion attempts you can now. PAT is almost 100%. The only problem I would have with that is the fact we have a kicker competition going on, and the PAT's are 13 yards longer now. These guys need to be tested, too. But I don't have a problem with them going for two more often. Cruize and Beastmode like this.

08-25-2015, 09:07 AM	#7
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Our Running Game last night. Originally Posted by burningmetal It doesn't matter in a game like this, but you just don't ever see teams do that, even in preseason. I haven't seen it before, anyway. I have actually noticed it being done a couple of times by other teams, in various other preseason games so far this year. In fact, teams already have attempted more two-point plays so far this year, than they did during all 65 games of the 2014 preseason. It's something to do with the rule change, but nobody is sure what it means. Most teams are not quite as extreme about it as Payton, going EVERY time, but that's why he's Sean Payton. Here's an article about it. Inside Slant: Two-point attempts are way up -- will it continue? - NFL Nation - ESPN

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