A debate challenge
 

Haslett won a playoff game when we had a defense that finished higher than the bottom half of the league.

Jim Mora (saints) won CONSISTENTLY when he had good players. And when those players were gone he couldn\'t win a thing.

Mike Holmgren won consistently at Green Bay with that talent. He goes to Seattle and they have as much talent as us and he can\'t win consistently there.

Everyone looks at the Saints offense and somehow thinks we have enough to be a playoff team. For the life of me, I just don\'t understand how anyone expects us to win more than 8 or so games with the terrible defense we\'ve had the past 4 years.

Maybe we\'ve had the talent to be better on defense. I think we have had the talent to play better on defense. How much better, I don\'t know.

If I can fault Haslett for anything, it\'s his failure to improve the defense over the past 4-seasons. He probably should have been fired because of it!! I would have fired Haslett myself.

But, Haslett is still here and I refuse to believe he can\'t win if somehow he gets this defense to shape up.

We\'ve CONSISTENTLY won about 8 games every year with a terrible defense.

I wonder how many games we could win with the 5th ranked defense?

I don\'t know, but, I think we would be a playoff team and once we got there............ who knows?