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Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 665063)

Another way to look at this; who have we played in the pre-season?

#2 ranked o-line
#7 ranked o-line
Our starting D-line dominated the PATs starters as well.

Then consider that our division has o-lines ranked in the bottom quarter of the league. Our D-line may be better than we think... I hope.

I agree that looks good for us. We had good run d and good pressure, but we desperately need some sacks.

Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

Unger and Armstead look like Elite...

Evans and Streif should rate Very Good...

If Lelito is anything lower than Average, I'll be surprised...

Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

Evans still looks strong to me. He's still got short range quickness and agility but he's a lot slower downfield than he used to be. He might not be All-Pro level anymore but he's still solid.

Streif was never a great athlete but his fundamentals are damn near perfect. Because of that we haven't seen any notable drop off due to age and I think guys like that tend to have long and effective careers even into their mid/late 30s.

Armstead and Unger are beasts.

Lelito, I really don't know. Can't say that I've seen enough to come to any conclusion.

As far the back-ups, including Peat, I have no clue.

Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

Well if PFF says so, there's no reason to question it, right? I wonder if people read PFF articles to tell them who they should marry.

Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

Armstead has All-Pro ability. Needs to stay healthy.
Lelito will surprise.
Unger is easily the best C the Saints have had in a LONG time.
Evans will be solid. Better than most.
Strief is the most underrated T in the NFL.

As I've said before, what will help the OLine the most is Payton pounding the ball. Let the big guys smash the defenders. Make them fight off blocks and make tackles.

Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 665025)

Projecting our offensive line this season...

Left Tackle

By all accounts from training camp, Terron Armstead should make the big leap this season to elite status. Thought he was underrated last season and handled Seattle's multiple front/personnel well...

Left Guard

Don't get the harshness and pessimism toward Tim Lelito. What were the expectations of an undrafted rookie free agent?!? He's had nowhere to go but up. All he's done is come and work his tail off and improve with every opportunity. Expect to see better play than we had from the overpaid Grubbs last season...

Center

Think any questions over what kind of player Max Under is going to be for the Saints were answered for fans on the Cooks Screen Touchdown against the Ravens in PreSeason. Expect him to return to All-Pro form...

Right Guart

All-Pro Right Guard Jahri Evans has set a high bar for himself over the years, but for me, he's the biggest concern I've got going into the 2015 season. Age, Wear and The Big Mo look like they've got Jahri having one foot out the door; fingers crossed here...

Right Tackle

Zach Strief is the poster child for NFL overachievers; he's proof that hard work, character and leadership can forge a lasting NFL career; I cringe watching him maneuver in space despite his reliable effectiveness; while rookie Andrus Peat has gotten off to a slower start than expected in training camp, I still expect youth to be served by season's end...

http://blackandgold.com/blogs/jeanpi...sive-line.html

Good analysis fam.

Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

Bobby and Hokie made a great point last week on WWL (yea I know, I was shocked too)

Discussing Evans and long term vets in general, they just don't have the same effort in camp that they do when the season starts. When the season starts they turn it up several notches. Almost all veterans do it.

Re: Pro Football Focus ranks Saints OL 10th best in NFL

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 665381)

Bobby and Hokie made a great point last week on WWL (yea I know, I was shocked too)

:lolup:

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 665381)

Discussing Evans and long term vets in general, they just don't have the same effort in camp that they do when the season starts. When the season starts they turn it up several notches. Almost all veterans do it.

True. Good Point.