The Dude

That we really have an awesome defense that Payton knows can wreak havoc and terrorize QBs? Maybe he just doesn't want to show his hand and they are so good they don't need playing time in goofy pre season games. Hell he didn't even try to win against the Patriots. He was just balls out practicing going for twos. maybe he just wanted to practice what it would be like if we had no pass rush so he could see how his DBs perform when they have to do all the work.........

nola_swammi

Maybe..........

AlaskaSaints

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Oh.... Mann......

I get what you're saying, The Dude. Scary, at best.

xan

In a choice of

1) no
2) hell no
3) f×÷= no; and
4) stupid is as stupid does,

Only time will tell

Ashley

I think we need to face it. The defense will not make a dramatic jump in performance. We all have hope, but not this year, not with the talent on the field. Maybe in a year or two. And this will also be big boys last year in black n gold. We all know it

halloween 65

Only way I see the D improves is getting turnovers to get off the field. I do like the hell out of Kiki though and think he might be a steal. Jenkins isn't so bad at NT but on a really good D he's a back-up at best. You know coaching goes a long way with how players do, even on great defenses all players were not so to speak studs but they bought in to what was being taught and played as a whole. The culture since Payton has taken over has been offense( which he has put together great ones, 2011 being the best I EVER watched anywhere) with a well below average D. I'm not expecting anything different this season.

SaintsBro

They don't even need to be dominant or crushing, wreaking havoc or breaking bones.... They just need to be decently MIDDLE OF THE PACK. If they could somehow get themselves into the teens in the rankings, 15, 17, 13 -- something below 20 -- then this team could possibly make some noise.

But I don't really think this defense is that.

Other than one series against Brady, minus Gronk, and without their main weapons, this defense has been pretty much bulldozed and steamrolled at will, by every team they've faced so far. If they are hiding something from the world, they are doing a heck of a good job of it.

pherein

Ive had a LOT other teams fans tell me that. If you guys just had a mediocre
10-20 rank D sense 2006 it would have been a different world, cause the offense has always been there.
I watched the Pats,GB, NY, eagles ,etc secondary. We are not even in the same ball park.
Ours looks more like the bengals, jets, below average to bad teams.

hagan714

well on the bright side there we can only go up in the rankings last year. oppsss there is 32nd league as an option too

odds should be in our favor

Danno

I thought we could field a defense ranked in the low teens if we could avoid key or excessive injuries, especially at DB. We did neither...

Lewis - Out 4 to 6 weeks
Byrd - Who knows?
Browner - Hurt
Sunseri - IR
PJWilliams - IR
Vaccaro - Hurt
Spenser - IR
Ellerbe - Hurt
Spiller - Hurt

Our offense will have to carry us for a while, again.