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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Does Loomis make these decisions? Who does? Is it SP? I don't think blaming any one person is right... But blaming several of them, well that seems fair....

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Old 09-06-2015, 10:29 PM   #1
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Does Loomis make these decisions? Who does? Is it SP? I don't think blaming any one person is right... But blaming several of them, well that seems fair.
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Does Loomis make these decisions? Who does? Is it SP? I don't think blaming any one person is right... But blaming several of them, well that seems fair.
I blame Both Loomis and Payton. I don't think anyone is brought in or let go without input from Sean. But Loomis is responsible for making sure things make financial sense. He's been really up and down with that for his entire tenure with us.

People forget the pre-Payton/Brees years with Loomis. I frankly couldn't stand him then, and thought he was horrible. Then Payton and Brees get here and suddenly things were looking up. He did make some nice moves during that period, but I don't think we would have gotten Brees if it weren't for his injury. We were very fortunate.

Payton is a good coach. I'm not looking for him to be fired. I just think between he and Loomis, they have gotten sloppy with personnel decisions. Loomis has always been a bit overrated. Having an elite QB makes a lot of people look smart.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips

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Does Loomis make these decisions? Who does? Is it SP? I don't think blaming any one person is right... But blaming several of them, well that seems fair.
Homer, he's the GM and the end of the day, the buck stops with him....

It's about leadership, and if he's rubberstamping all these moves then he's useless all the same...
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Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips

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Does Loomis make these decisions? Who does? Is it SP? I don't think blaming any one person is right... But blaming several of them, well that seems fair.
It's the general manager job to have scouts in place to make those decisions and 2014 was a bad draft that plenty of fans seen. My biggest complaint about those picks were that a lot of them were injured and SJB was a project with 2nd rd pick, even Seattle didn't take such a gamble on Richard Sherman with a 2nd rd pick, Loomis need to stick what he is best at and that's being a bean counter. He said last year he make those pick and sometimes him and Payton get in heated debated on picks but he have the final say. The guy is smart, knowing his talent of making picks are so weak that he tried to intertwine his contract with Payton but the league refused the contract which had us all sweating that the Cowboys were going to swoop up and sign Payton away
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