Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

I guess we think back to Henderson, Meacham, Moore and Sproles. It seems like Drew could throw water balloons to these guys and they would
catch em. But time moves on and we can't live in the past. However these guys were some memorable players.

Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

Here is what nobody gets. We need him to rest NOW and do whatever it takes to get as close to 100% before the last few games. We need him to have trade value for next year if it comes to that. He plays before he is ready and gets injured for the rest of season he will have 0 value. We will have to pay the 20 mil and hope he's good by next season or cut him outright for nothing. Then we would have to find a legit starting QB.

Honestly I think this is the last year of the Payton/Brees era. I don't think Payton will be here next year for many reasons and drew won't be too far behind him. He had 2 more seasons at most.

Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

If Kenny Stills was so great then why we trade him? Think maybe there was some stuff behind closed doors we didn't know at the time or still son't know. For better or worst, coach is gonna do what he thinks is best.

Do I miss having a Jimmy in the redzone, yes. But I was not bent like you and some others when we traded him. Jimmy wasn't the same player he was after all that contract bull crap. I get your point about the system but to say we lost this person and that person and the players you are referring to are not doing squat elsewhere, well the team doesn't look so dumb. In the past was different. We would let players go for non performance and as soon as they got on another team, boom!! they were superstars. This is not the case lately.

Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

I read that Jimmy G is unhappy with his role in Seattle. They don't know how to use.

Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

Some people here will never agree with this but we got the better end of the deal with Seattle. The players are basically a wash. Seattle O line is struggling without Unger and we are struggling in the red zone without Graham. What makes us have the better deal is we got there first round pick.

Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

The issue is you can hold back the flood waters of a bulging cap for only so long then the dam burst and all hell breaks lose if you did not draft the right players to replace the fat over bloated contracts one is dealing with.

Saints have shown appreciation to players and have been loyal to fault. This blind loyalty resulted in the cap situation they are in today. From a basic business sense many saw this day coming. People had to go.

The huge issue is the lack of young cheap quality players to step in and become starters. This is how you easy the pain of transition.

Saints bench suxs and always has for the most part. Once in a blue moon do the saints get players that really push for a starting job. The draft and free agency always seem to be a plug and play approach based on need not on developing quality depth on the bench.

Lets hope 2015 draft will be a new page for the saints draft history. 2017 and 2018 are approaching quickly and we can ill afford any more strike outs in the draft right now.

The guy is right. The issues with saints are much bigger than Drew.

Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

And after two games Kenny Stills has 3 catches for 20 yards.
Maybe he wasn't as good as we thought?

Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

Dust off the old Tom Fears "blue chip players" quote

Re: Saints' real problem on offense, and it's not just Drew Brees’ shoulder
 

Those are the type we need. Nothing flashy or fancy just solid. I would take 11 solid (blue chip) players any day over 11 (flash,me type) 7 days a week. More consistant.