Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

It all starts with the FIVE guys up front.

Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

I think that our O-linemen were in such a big a hurry to get up field that they did a poor job on their initial assignment. We need to solidify the tight five(rugby term) better and worry less about down field blocking while blocking better at the line of scrimmage.

I believe we try to get linemen downfield so quickly because our WR's have no speed and need someone to hide behind.

We need more chip blocks from the RB's and TE's before they go out running their route. I realize this slows down the teams ability to get open and there in lies the problem. We are too slow for plays to develop down field and too slow for the separation needed to make things happen right after the snap of the ball. Whether it's a three, five or seven step drop back we don't have the players to find space.:cool:

Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

I never have liked Strief. The pressure Brees saw from the right side is typical of Zach and something I've complained about on these boards for years. He is just as overrated as Bushrod was in New Orleans. Brees pocket presence over the years saved him from plenty of instances were Strief got beat off the line. He is no John Stinchcomb or Jamal Brown. The days of Brown, Nicks, Goodwin, Evans, and Stinchcomb are long gone.

Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

The days of Brown, Nicks, Goodwin, Evans, and Stinchcomb are long gone. Sad but true.

You can't just plug in guys.

Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

Exactly.

Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

That 2008 O line in my opinion was even better than the 2009 one, Payton just chose to throw 45 times a game....wait we still do that.....

If I remember correctly, the 2008 O line only allowed 14 sacks all season.

Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

Streif was and is a swingman...backup.

Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

Where were you guys when everybody was telling me he was an elite RT? Lmao.

Re: Drew Brees harried by Bucs as Zach Strief struggles, pass protection breaks down
 

We were in 2013 and 2014 when it was obvious he was a great RT. Lmao!

Its now 2015 in case you haven't noticed. Lmao

He was a very good RT for several years. Age looks to have caught up with him but its only 2 games.

So if Brees starts to suck at age 40, are you gonna call out everyone who claimed Brees was elite from 2006 thru 2013? Lmao.