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Old 09-23-2015, 07:43 PM   #11
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Re: Saints' Akiem Hicks was replaced in lineup Sunday

Hicks did play at DT the last few years. He was bad.
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Hicks did play at DT the last few years. He was bad.
Yes he was. He plays too high for inside.

His size, measurables and skillset are nearly perfect for a 3-4 DE.

Why he and Cam Jordan (who's size, measurables and skillset are nearly perfect for a 3-4 DE also) don't absolutely dominate in a 3-4 set confounds me.

If I drew up two perfect 3-4 DE's on paper, they would look exactly like Jordan and Hicks.

I just don't get it.
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Yes he was. He plays too high for inside.

His size, measurables and skillset are nearly perfect for a 3-4 DE.

Why he and Cam Jordan (who's size, measurables and skillset are nearly perfect for a 3-4 DE also) don't absolutely dominate in a 3-4 set confounds me.

If I drew up two perfect 3-4 DE's on paper, they would look exactly like Jordan and Hicks.

I just don't get it.
Agreed. The last two years we supposedly were a 3-4 defense with Jordan and Hicks playing the 5 technique, but we never actually lined up like that. Then we gave up on it. I don't get it... But I'm positive putting Hicks at DE in a four man front is just dumb. More evidence of this team just not having any idea how to field a competent defense.
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Agreed. The last two years we supposedly were a 3-4 defense with Jordan and Hicks playing the 5 technique, but we never actually lined up like that. Then we gave up on it. I don't get it... But I'm positive putting Hicks at DE in a four man front is just dumb. More evidence of this team just not having any idea how to field a competent defense.
Well Johnson coaching is questionable and Vitt doesn't do any better with the lb.'s. Year after year our D is not very good at all under their way of doing things. I blame these 2 more than anybody. If our O line coach did as sad of a job as those 2 Payton would find someone to replace him, why don't Johnson and Vitt get the boot. I'm not high on Allen right now either. I'm all for getting rid of all of the D coaches and bring in some fresh people that can tune-up the D players, and as much as I like Ryan( he drew a bad hand) letting him go to.
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Well Johnson coaching is questionable and Vitt doesn't do any better with the lb.'s. Year after year our D is not very good at all under their way of doing things. I blame these 2 more than anybody. If our O line coach did as sad of a job as those 2 Payton would find someone to replace him, why don't Johnson and Vitt get the boot. I'm not high on Allen right now either. I'm all for getting rid of all of the D coaches and bring in some fresh people that can tune-up the D players, and as much as I like Ryan( he drew a bad hand) letting him go to.
Then you better hope Payton gets fired.
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Then you better hope Payton gets fired.
Paytons loyalty might be his down fall. Somethings got to give, a talent like Brees is hard to find and he's not a spring chicken any more.
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Coach em up Bill Johnson.

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 View Post
Well Johnson coaching is questionable and Vitt doesn't do any better with the lb.'s. Year after year our D is not very good at all under their way of doing things. I blame these 2 more than anybody. If our O line coach did as sad of a job as those 2 Payton would find someone to replace him, why don't Johnson and Vitt get the boot. I'm not high on Allen right now either. I'm all for getting rid of all of the D coaches and bring in some fresh people that can tune-up the D players, and as much as I like Ryan( he drew a bad hand) letting him go to.
They don't get the boot because they are Paytons boys. They will leave when Payton leaves.
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I don't understand what's wrong with our player development. Vaccaro, Jenkins, and Hicks all looked like promising impact players after their rookie years. There were also some other players that looked like they could be contributors for us as well and not only did they hit a wall, they've regressed significantly. Something has got to change if we continue in our downward spiral. As big as of a fan as I am of Payton, coaches come and go and are replaceable. Andy Reid, Mike Holgrem, Jeff Fisher, etc. were all top coaches that were eventually replaced. Sometimes a fresh start is best for everyone.

I hope we turn things around. Our window of realistically winning another championship has been shrinking by the day.
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I don't understand what's wrong with our player development. Vaccaro, Jenkins, and Hicks all looked like promising impact players after their rookie years. There were also some other players that looked like they could be contributors for us as well and not only did they hit a wall, they've regressed significantly. Something has got to change if we continue in our downward spiral. As big as of a fan as I am of Payton, coaches come and go and are replaceable. Andy Reid, Mike Holgrem, Jeff Fisher, etc. were all top coaches that were eventually replaced. Sometimes a fresh start is best for everyone.

I hope we turn things around. Our window of realistically winning another championship has been shrinking by the day.
Can't say I disagree.
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