Common theme

saintsfan1976 · 09-27-2015, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Look at our schedule, the way we are playing, is there seriously a game we stand a chance at winning?

I certainly don't think there is...I think we should move on from SP and Loomis, they've crippled this team with bad decisions.

Unfortunately, I don't see Benson or whomever pulls Benson's string getting rid of them.

Halo · 09-27-2015, 05:04 PM

Today is proof that it doesn't matter who is our QB: Brees, McCown, Montana, Manning... it will NEVER matter when the defense is a doormat!

We didn't stop ANYTHING, and when Carolina was stopped they stopped themselves on a blown play. Did Cam get sacked? No. Pressure the QB? NO! Could we cover Olsen? Heck NO. Would we even try to make defensive changes? NO. Browner = ALL DAY LONG!!!

It doesn't matter who is at QB. Our defense is such a doormat that the offense would need to score a touchdown every single time they touched the ball, plain and simple. It's just a waste of talent like Brees, McCown, Spiller, etc. etc. because they have to play a PERFECT game for us to have a chance.

SmashMouth · 09-27-2015, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Today is proof that it doesn't matter who is our QB: Brees, McCown, Montana, Manning... it will NEVER matter when the defense is a doormat!

We didn't stop ANYTHING, and when Carolina was stopped they stopped themselves on a blown play. Did Cam get sacked? No. Pressure the QB? NO! Could we cover Olsen? Heck NO. Would we even try to make defensive changes? NO. Browner = ALL DAY LONG!!!

It doesn't matter who is at QB. Our defense is such a doormat that the offense would need to score a touchdown every single time they touched the ball, plain and simple. It's just a waste of talent like Brees, McCown, Spiller, etc. etc. because they have to play a PERFECT game for us to have a chance.

SO.. Brees is gone next year along with his gut choking salary then?

Halo · 09-27-2015, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

SO.. Brees is gone next year along with his gut choking salary then?

If it would free up money to pick up some players on defense, and with a new defensive coordinator, sure. Whatever it takes. Will cutting him free money? I dunno. We could get caught with more dead money - something we have a lot of nowadays (along with bench warmers).

halloween 65 · 09-27-2015, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Today is proof that it doesn't matter who is our QB: Brees, McCown, Montana, Manning... it will NEVER matter when the defense is a doormat!

We didn't stop ANYTHING, and when Carolina was stopped they stopped themselves on a blown play. Did Cam get sacked? No. Pressure the QB? NO! Could we cover Olsen? Heck NO. Would we even try to make defensive changes? NO. Browner = ALL DAY LONG!!!

It doesn't matter who is at QB. Our defense is such a doormat that the offense would need to score a touchdown every single time they touched the ball, plain and simple. It's just a waste of talent like Brees, McCown, Spiller, etc. etc. because they have to play a PERFECT game for us to have a chance.

You are right. We're not a quick strike O either that can mask a pathetic D anymore.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2015, 05:13 PM

Remember when we signed/drafted all these players that are suited for a 3-4

Then dramatically announced we'll change back to a 4-3 after only one season

Sure Rob is not good, But SP has NO IDEA what the hell he is looking for.

He keeps changing his damn mind all the time!!

Halo · 09-27-2015, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Remember when we signed/drafted all these players that are suited for a 3-4

Then dramatically announced we'll change back to a 4-3 after only one season

Sure Rob is not good, But SP has NO IDEA what the hell he is looking for.

He keeps changing his damn mind all the time!!

Loomis also. He's pretty high on my poop list right now.

RailBoss · 09-27-2015, 05:14 PM

McCown is 34 years old Brees is 36.
Short term either one.
Long term Grayson or ?

WillSaints81 · 09-27-2015, 05:21 PM

The problem was McCown throwing deep right. That was dumb. He should not have thrown that way, there was no way Cooks was gonna get that TD anyway.

Halo · 09-27-2015, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

The problem was McCown throwing deep right. That was dumb. He should not have thrown that way, there was no way Cooks was gonna get that TD anyway.

No way, I can't take anything from McCown, he did his part. Int or not, we gave up too many points!!! We had at least 2 defensive drives where WE COULD NOT STOP CAROLINA and it looked like WE WERE ASLEEP AT THE DEFENSIVE WHEEL! Carolina scored 27!!!!

We lost games so far in 2015: 27-22, 26-19, 31-19, and it goes back to 2014 like that.

Opponents are already averaging mid-20's points per game. Offense simply cannot outscore them. It's pure math - our defense cannot stop teams from scoring at-will!!! Until our defense improves and begins to stop teams, it doesn't matter what the offense does so long as the defense is a doormat!!!

09-27-2015, 04:54 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Common theme Originally Posted by dizzle88 Look at our schedule, the way we are playing, is there seriously a game we stand a chance at winning? I certainly don't think there is...I think we should move on from SP and Loomis, they've crippled this team with bad decisions. Unfortunately, I don't see Benson or whomever pulls Benson's string getting rid of them.

09-27-2015, 05:04 PM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Common theme Today is proof that it doesn't matter who is our QB: Brees, McCown, Montana, Manning... it will NEVER matter when the defense is a doormat! We didn't stop ANYTHING, and when Carolina was stopped they stopped themselves on a blown play. Did Cam get sacked? No. Pressure the QB? NO! Could we cover Olsen? Heck NO. Would we even try to make defensive changes? NO. Browner = ALL DAY LONG!!! It doesn't matter who is at QB. Our defense is such a doormat that the offense would need to score a touchdown every single time they touched the ball, plain and simple. It's just a waste of talent like Brees, McCown, Spiller, etc. etc. because they have to play a PERFECT game for us to have a chance. skymike, SaintsBro, halloween 65 and 1 others like this.
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09-27-2015, 05:07 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,803 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Common theme Originally Posted by Halo Today is proof that it doesn't matter who is our QB: Brees, McCown, Montana, Manning... it will NEVER matter when the defense is a doormat! We didn't stop ANYTHING, and when Carolina was stopped they stopped themselves on a blown play. Did Cam get sacked? No. Pressure the QB? NO! Could we cover Olsen? Heck NO. Would we even try to make defensive changes? NO. Browner = ALL DAY LONG!!! It doesn't matter who is at QB. Our defense is such a doormat that the offense would need to score a touchdown every single time they touched the ball, plain and simple. It's just a waste of talent like Brees, McCown, Spiller, etc. etc. because they have to play a PERFECT game for us to have a chance. SO.. Brees is gone next year along with his gut choking salary then?

09-27-2015, 05:12 PM	#4
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Common theme Originally Posted by SmashMouth SO.. Brees is gone next year along with his gut choking salary then? If it would free up money to pick up some players on defense, and with a new defensive coordinator, sure. Whatever it takes. Will cutting him free money? I dunno. We could get caught with more dead money - something we have a lot of nowadays (along with bench warmers).

09-27-2015, 05:21 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Common theme Originally Posted by Halo Today is proof that it doesn't matter who is our QB: Brees, McCown, Montana, Manning... it will NEVER matter when the defense is a doormat! We didn't stop ANYTHING, and when Carolina was stopped they stopped themselves on a blown play. Did Cam get sacked? No. Pressure the QB? NO! Could we cover Olsen? Heck NO. Would we even try to make defensive changes? NO. Browner = ALL DAY LONG!!! It doesn't matter who is at QB. Our defense is such a doormat that the offense would need to score a touchdown every single time they touched the ball, plain and simple. It's just a waste of talent like Brees, McCown, Spiller, etc. etc. because they have to play a PERFECT game for us to have a chance. You are right. We're not a quick strike O either that can mask a pathetic D anymore.

09-27-2015, 05:13 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Common theme Remember when we signed/drafted all these players that are suited for a 3-4 Then dramatically announced we'll change back to a 4-3 after only one season Sure Rob is not good, But SP has NO IDEA what the hell he is looking for. He keeps changing his damn mind all the time!!

09-27-2015, 05:14 PM	#7
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Common theme Originally Posted by dizzle88 Remember when we signed/drafted all these players that are suited for a 3-4 Then dramatically announced we'll change back to a 4-3 after only one season Sure Rob is not good, But SP has NO IDEA what the hell he is looking for. He keeps changing his damn mind all the time!! Loomis also. He's pretty high on my poop list right now. brees84 and saintshrimp like this.

09-27-2015, 05:14 PM	#8
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Common theme McCown is 34 years old Brees is 36. Short term either one. Long term Grayson or ?

09-27-2015, 05:21 PM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Common theme The problem was McCown throwing deep right. That was dumb. He should not have thrown that way, there was no way Cooks was gonna get that TD anyway.

09-27-2015, 06:01 PM	#10
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Common theme Originally Posted by WillSaints81 The problem was McCown throwing deep right. That was dumb. He should not have thrown that way, there was no way Cooks was gonna get that TD anyway. No way, I can't take anything from McCown, he did his part. Int or not, we gave up too many points!!! We had at least 2 defensive drives where WE COULD NOT STOP CAROLINA and it looked like WE WERE ASLEEP AT THE DEFENSIVE WHEEL! Carolina scored 27!!!! We lost games so far in 2015: 27-22, 26-19, 31-19, and it goes back to 2014 like that. Opponents are already averaging mid-20's points per game. Offense simply cannot outscore them. It's pure math - our defense cannot stop teams from scoring at-will!!! Until our defense improves and begins to stop teams, it doesn't matter what the offense does so long as the defense is a doormat!!! pherein, SaintsBro and SaintsBro like this.
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