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RailBoss 09-27-2015 03:29 PM

McCown Not bad But Colston??
 
McCown did okay today we were in it to the end.
But what is going on with Colston.
The Defense was pathetic.
0 -3

dizzle88 09-27-2015 03:31 PM

Re: McCown Not bad But Colston??
 
The only rebuilding team with a HOF quarterback paying multiple players more than what they are worth.

Throw that together with a defense that can't decide if it's a 3-4 or 4-3 in the offseason and multiple bad choices by the coaches, including predictability on offense and hey presto;

There are your 0-3 saints

Danno 09-27-2015 03:33 PM

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McCown was great.

Colston? He's done.

Watson fumble? Bad timing.

Browner? Awful, just awful.

Defense? Still can't cover a TE. Seriously? He's their only receiving threat. How can we leave him uncovered?

SmashMouth 09-27-2015 03:35 PM

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On the bright side... you can upgrade your season tickets next year...

GeauxForMore 09-27-2015 03:37 PM

Re: McCown Not bad But Colston??
 
Browner can not be left on a island covering a speedy WR. He is not a shut down corner. Got to have a safety high with him. New England knew this and so did Seattle. They used his other strengths to help their defense. Unfortunately we don't do that here in New Orleans.

RailBoss 09-27-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxForMore (Post 671249)
Browner can not be left on a island covering a speedy WR. He is not a shut down corner. Got to have a safety high with him. New England knew this and so did Seattle. They used his other strengths to help their defense. Unfortunately we don't do that here in New Orleans.

Isn't that what RR gets paid for to figure out.

burningmetal 09-27-2015 03:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 671236)
McCown was great.

Colston? He's done.

Watson fumble? Bad timing.

Browner? Awful, just awful.

Defense? Still can't cover a TE. Seriously? He's their only receiving threat. How can we leave him uncovered?

I kept saying that to myself about Olson. Nobody but him to worry about, and he's running free... Super.

GeauxForMore 09-27-2015 03:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 671255)
Isn't that what RR gets paid for to figure out.

My point exactly. Enough of this RR defense.

Barry from MS 09-27-2015 03:48 PM

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Colston should not be part of any 2 minute offense. This is getting predictable. Brees can no longer be blamed as Colston also crapped himself getting passes from McCown. Colston's fault. Sorry, but he is done. What good is a receiver when he can not catch.

As far as Browner goes, he is what he is. Blame the coaching staff. They should know what he is and play him and coach him up as such within the system of the defense. He did well within the system of Seattle b/c Seattle's defensive coaches were and are far superior than ours. So are New England's. It is what it is.

SmashMouth 09-27-2015 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 671276)
Colston should not be part of any 2 minute offense. This is getting predictable. Brees can no longer be blamed as Colston also crapped himself getting passes from McCown. Colston's fault. Sorry, but he is done. What good is a receiver when he can not catch.

As far as Browner goes, he is what he is. Blame the coaching staff. They should know what he is and play him and coach him up as such within the system of the defense. He did well within the system of Seattle b/c Seattle's defensive coaches were and are far superior than ours. So are New England's. It is what it is.

Andy Tanner would be an improvement...

Cruize 09-27-2015 04:00 PM

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DLine is just hot garbage. No pass rush. Can't defend the run. Swann and Breaux have promise but the rest in the secondary are not good. Kikaha is a high motor guy but he's average at best when the Saints need good to great. Anthony has no help. Hope it doesn't stunt his potential.

brees84 09-27-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 671287)
Anthony has no help. Hope it doesn't stunt his potential.

Good thing we have excellent LB coach... lol

hagan714 09-27-2015 04:24 PM

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How can you judge the entire second level of the defense when they were in zone 80% of the time. something we all say in the preseason is not a saints strong suit. wonder why Cam drove up and down the field so many time he had to pull in for a pit stop to change tires.

Back on topic. dropped passes are just as contagious as the common cold. Once it starts they come in bunches.

SmashMouth 09-27-2015 04:49 PM

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Jamessr 09-27-2015 05:49 PM

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I didn't watch the game today...
Doesn't seem like I missed much

SaintFanQ 09-27-2015 05:52 PM

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And just to make things worse . . . . . . . Atlanta won again! Sigh!

Euphoria 09-27-2015 05:55 PM

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I blame a lot of the coverage issues on the Safeties... where the hell were they?

vpheughan 09-28-2015 07:52 AM

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Tebow would have covered him!!

Budsdrinker 09-28-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 671372)
I blame a lot of the coverage issues on the Safeties... where the hell were they?

a couple times Vaccaro was blitzing to create pressure since the front 4 can't do it but that didn't work either.

Danno 09-28-2015 08:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 671372)
I blame a lot of the coverage issues on the Safeties... where the hell were they?

Two are on Injured Reserve (Sunseri and Bush) and one hasn't played a down yet this season (Byrd).

Crusader 09-28-2015 08:45 AM

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Colston is one of my favorite all-time Saints but I don't get him right now. First he makes some tough catches over the middle and then he drops what looks to be some easy balls.

SmashMouth 09-28-2015 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 671567)
Colston is one of my favorite all-time Saints but I don't get him right now. First he makes some tough catches over the middle and then he drops what looks to be some easy balls.

Too many catches over the middle over the years have caught up with him.

Budsdrinker 09-28-2015 09:05 AM

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Everyone is dropping passes but yet Colston is the only one being singled out.
Interesting. He is the only WR getting open over the middle. Where are the TE's down the seam? Where are the 10 yard hooks? Where are the sluggo routes? I just don't see any good routes run by any of the receivers. Snead drops what should have been an easy sideline pass towards the end of the game as well as Colston but no one is saying Snead is done. A lot people on here are too critical because they think a player is too old, perhaps it's just that we're a bad team right now and the young players can't beat out the older players.

RailBoss 09-28-2015 09:23 AM

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Probably because Colston has been so consistent over the years. But you know if we trade him he will do a Jerry Rice and come back to haunt us.

rezburna 09-28-2015 09:34 AM

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I'm willing to bet any amount of money that Randy Moss and Terrell Owens would be more serviceable receivers then what we have on the roster. Why not take a chance on Moss, Owens, Reggie Wayne, or Hakeem Nicks? What harm could it do?

Mardigras9 09-28-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 671269)
I kept saying that to myself about Olson. Nobody but him to worry about, and he's running free... Super.

Yeah, and it's not like it was a secret going into the game, he was the most targeted and most productive receiver for Newton the previous two games.

My question is, why do they keep trying to throw that back endzone pass to Cooks, Brees had the same the result, dude is like 5 foot nothing?

RailBoss 09-28-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 671593)
ha ha I cant believe what I'm seeing on here. colston? browner? hey for the first 3 games our defense played well. you think a te like greg olsen wasn't gonna have a big game? as old as j whitten is he still causes match up problems for defenses. the question is WHO SAY WE WONT MISS JIMMY GRAHAM? good offenses have good te's. the te causes matchup problems because usually they're bigger and stronger than the guys trying to defend them. we're also missing the likes of d sprolles. again match up problems. and with no real wide outs that can cause matchup problems we're gonna struggle. that's why in the off season I went ham on the fact we got rid of jg I went ham when we got rid of k stills. I really felt this year with jg k stills coming along and if we got some hogs to protect drew we would have been a playoff caliber team but noo what we do trade jg for a center, get rid of k stills and I still don't know who replaced him yet. and we haven't seen spiller ( I don't count yesterday) and we still haven't seen our j byrd on defense as well as lewis. the problem guys is that they're not closing teams out. all 3 losses were losses whereas the saints had the ball with more than enough time to be creative on othe offensive side of the ball. luke mccown wasn't decent, HE WAS OUTSTANDING! 31-36 (or 38) 300+yrds passing, td but the one thing that hurt that is the int late in the game. overall if we pulled off that win yesterday NO ONE WOULD BE COMPLAINING ABOUT browner or anyone else.

I agree with a lot of what you say, JG, Sproles even Lance Moore gave us
those nice dump off options that are hard to cover. It's ok to to trade as long as you replace with equal or better talent,

Mardigras9 09-28-2015 10:26 AM

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If it's not hating on Brees, it's hating on Colston this year. Not like they are falling behind some other stud on offense?

SmashMouth 09-28-2015 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 671585)
I'm willing to bet any amount of money that Randy Moss and Terrell Owens would be more serviceable receivers then what we have on the roster. Why not take a chance on Moss, Owens, Reggie Wayne, or Hakeem Nicks? What harm could it do?

You may have a point. Slight problem.... $$$$$!

lumm0x 09-28-2015 12:07 PM

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Other guys are dropping them but they have no history of being solid WR's. I expect Snead and Coleman to struggle. I expect Colston to be clutch. I've defended him long enough. He costs us 1-2 drives a game. I hate to say it but he needs to be out of there.

Budsdrinker 09-28-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 671618)
Other guys are dropping them but they have no history of being solid WR's. I expect Snead and Coleman to struggle. I expect Colston to be clutch. I've defended him long enough. He costs us 1-2 drives a game. I hate to say it but he needs to be out of there.

And replace him with whom?

burningmetal 09-28-2015 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 671572)
Everyone is dropping passes but yet Colston is the only one being singled out.
Interesting. He is the only WR getting open over the middle. Where are the TE's down the seam? Where are the 10 yard hooks? Where are the sluggo routes? I just don't see any good routes run by any of the receivers. Snead drops what should have been an easy sideline pass towards the end of the game as well as Colston but no one is saying Snead is done. A lot people on here are too critical because they think a player is too old, perhaps it's just that we're a bad team right now and the young players can't beat out the older players.

We've had SOME drops by all of our receivers. Coleman has drown the ire of many, including myself, for his play. But no one has come close to dropping as many balls as Colston, and NO ONE is making the kind of money he is making in that receiving corps.

He's not being singled out, but he's getting the most negative attention for good reason. Snead dropped an easy pass. Colston dropped about 4. I challenge anyone to find a good excuse for that.

UK_WhoDat 09-28-2015 02:02 PM

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I was very impressed with McCown performance. Very tidy.

Yep, I think we knew that Colston is not what he was. In one breath we want to keep all the fellas that was good for us one time and then we get choked when they play like old men. You know, sometimes we have to accept that when we reach the end of a book, we should close it. Maybe we are slow at realising when we are at the end of the book.

CharityMike 09-28-2015 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 671627)
but who's defense is? name me one team that has ALL THE TANGIBLES you want in a defense?

Easy..Denver

WillSaints81 09-28-2015 05:36 PM

Re: McCown Not bad But Colston??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 671585)
I'm willing to bet any amount of money that Randy Moss and Terrell Owens would be more serviceable receivers then what we have on the roster. Why not take a chance on Moss, Owens, Reggie Wayne, or Hakeem Nicks? What harm could it do?


Maybe Wayne now but thats it. A few years back we should have taken Moss, but SF was the mot manipulative organization at the time that brought players on just to keep the other team from getting them.

A good example..........Nnamdi.

The Dude 09-28-2015 07:49 PM

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Who knows but without his drops Luke would have only had 2 incomplete passes. Not bad. IF we had a decent defense Luke is just good enough to get us to the playoffs. Too bad we dont. Who knows what is up with Colston. We will probably hear at the end of the year that he has fingerprint injuries or something stupid like that.

voodooido 09-28-2015 07:58 PM

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The guys on the bench can not be any worse than Colston at this point. Time for him to take his ball and go home(if he can still carry without dropping).

nola_swammi 09-28-2015 09:06 PM

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I was surprised on Mccown play. I will be eating a plate of crow if he have a repeat performance or even half the performance he had with Carolina


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