Fire Rob Ryan
 

Do it now!! Do it on the plane and have his sh!t sitting on the tarmac.

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I never wanted him to start with. He's not the only problem with our team, but he is definitely a big one.

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It's time.....plus Joe Vitt and Bill Johnson

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Yea the whole defensive coaches including Allen. None of these guys are any good coaching players case in point Vitt. He's been here coaching linebackers since 2006. No linebacker we have drafted amounted to nothing most we get we cut after a few years. Vilma and Lofton came from other teams. Is it bad drafting? Perhaps but I think a lot of players don't shine on the defense is a lack of good coaching from Rob at the top to position coaches. Its is not just Robs fault

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come on 3rd and short? what would you call?

ZONE ZONE ZONE ZONE ZONE Over and over again and again

Hey Rob our ZONE DEFENSE SUXS. we all saw that during the pre season. was Rob even at those games?

I will say the DL held their gap assignments today better than I have seen in a long time.

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I was at the game today. If we don't let him go, he's going to die on the sideline from a stroke.

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I know it is killing him. I know he cares. But he is no Greg Williams.

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Who would yall like to see them hire to replace him?

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Replace them!!

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Wade Phillips, wherever he is!

What he did with the Texans D a couple years back was incredible.

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Wade Philips is defensive coordinator at Denver now and they are playing lights out

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He was my pick instead of Ryan at the time.

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I saw the same thing in the pre-season game in Baltimore.
His belly is actually scarier in real life.

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Can't say I'm shocked, the guy is a great coach.

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At this point I would give Halo the nod.

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I was at last weeks game and thought he needed to be let go. It's academic at this point, might as well let someone else give it a try earlier rather than later.

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This ^^^^^+1. I thought after Olsen went all Kellen Winslow on us in the 2nd quarter, RR would make the necessary adjustments after half time. We allowed free releases so Greg picked us apart in the middle of the field. Those zones were as soft as banana pudding.

This falls squarely on Rob Ryan.

Edit: Browner has been down right awful in all three games :(. I'd rather see Swann on the outside. Serious problems right now on D.

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Someone new, like Karl Dunbar, d-line coach now at the Bills, formerly with the Jets, and former Saints and LSU player. He has a lot coaching experience under his belt and comes from a great line of mentors.

Just sayin, someone NEW, not the NFL carousel.

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I agree it's almost like RR is not watching the game or something.
No adjustments at all, the opposing play callers must be in seventh heaven.

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Browner was used as a targeted CB cover man. The Pats picked a player and that was his man. Man coverage all game long. Up at the line Jamming the other player into submission within those first 5 yards.

Browner off the line in zone is just exposing his Achilles heel. Maybe when Lewis get back things will change. But making Browner give a cushion is stupid. That ain't his game.

Swann maybe the answer opposite of Lewis and let Browner beat up on his man all game long. If Lewis was back and Browner had Olsen all game long, I guarantee he would have neutralized him at the line all game long.

True man coverage or at the very least press coverage is what we need. We sux in zone

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How about getting Greg Williams back. Socializing is out but winning is in

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i wanted wade or romeo

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Hey, Hagan, all of our defenses suck :)))

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Imagine if we bench Browner when Keenan comes back

Breaux has played much better after being a penalty machine the first game
Damian Swann (who many called a camp body) is our most consistent CB at the moment

Imagine Keenan and Breaux, with Swann at Nickel, if the D line could stop acting like 2 years and actually do their job we might field a better D.

We need a consistent Defensive coordinator .......and stop paying 60 million for guys that aren't playing!!!!

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Me too. But only if they get to bring their own people with them, if they can't it will be the same ole' same ole'. Wade being my first choice with Crennel losing by just a nose. Both are great DC's.

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swann and lewis with breaux at nick. yeah man

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nope I would not go there. If Lewis was on the field I would assign Browner Olsen all game. I Benjamin was healthy I would not think twice about Browner on him. Get up in their face and jam them at the line. Knock them around all game. That is what Browner is all about. keep him away from quickness and speed at all cost.

Browner should never be asked to give cushion.

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I think everyone needs to go from the GM down.

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It's the same broken record, year in and year out,,,,,not saying that RR and spagnano should have gotten or get whacked, but we keep bringing in unhealthy old turd balls, or cats that stink. As long as our front office keeps bringing in guys who are either too old, or start the season not able to play, wouldn't matter if Turd Ferguson ran the defense. Although at least he'd have an excuse. It's the same thing,,,,,,,,,Where's Turd Ferguson!!

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Having J Byrd and Lewis will fix the d-line to rush the passer and not allow him 18 Mississippi to throw right ? Ha

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Something something fire somebody something something. Zzzzz same old song and dance.

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What I don't understand is the lack of a blitz from Rob :confused:.

He definitely don't have his old man's aggressiveness that's for sure.

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exactly. cant stop them anyway, might as well go out like a candle burning from both ends

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Dennis Allen influence. Rob has been neutered and told to keep it simple.

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Ryan tries to create exotic schemes, but his teams lack technique and fundamentals. It has become his calling card. The longer he stays somewhere, the worse his defenses get.

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Can't hurt. Worst pass rush I've ever seen. Can't cover a TE at all. No one making a play at all on defense. 3-8 over the last 11 regular season games.

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Carolina doesn't have a host of talent on offense. It's basically Cam, Stewart, and Olsen (maybe Ginn Jr.). I can understand Cam getting his yards, he's an amazing athlete. I can understand Stewart getting his 3.5 average, but what I can't understand is a TE coming off the line unchecked after he's burned you multiple times for big gains. It's inexcusable. And Sean knows better.

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SP looks like he's given up.
The team look like they don't want to play for him anymore.
We used to be the kings of half time adjustments, now even the raiders are making us look.pathetic.

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I guess no one is holding SP accountable. The ownership is preoccupied fighting each other. So we have a trophy in the showcase what do we do next for kicks.

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Regardless of level of play there are two basic philosophies to playin a good defence.
You either take a bunch of great athletes and put them in a simple defence and just let them get after the opponent.
Or you take a bunch of lesser athletes and try to tailor the defence around the to cover up the deficencies.

Right now it feels like we are doing neither. I can't pinpoint what is lacking but we just don't have it right now.

I myself prefer the first scenario, I would like that we keep drafting defence and get a new DC to install a regular 4-3 with over and under fronts. 3-4 is nice and dandy but its so hard to find the right pieces.