Bite the bullet

triman · 10-02-2015, 07:42 AM

Saints FO needs to bite the bullet and start the rebuilding Now!. The team has drafted poorly and managed to put themselves deep into salary cap bell. This is going to be a painful process for the faithful.. It is time to cut our losses on high salary non performing players absorb the hits and move forward.We are no longer a team that is a few players from a championship. The draft is the key to turning around this team .Free agency is a useful tool for filling holes . Moving forward we need to be very careful spending on free agents. Stockpiling draft picks and not reaching on projects. Our coaching staff should be under great scrutiny,,scouting and personnel staff as well. It is time to make some big changes and build a team worthy of the best fans loyalty.It's not going to be easy and it's going to hurt but it time to bite the bullet and get it done.

nutria · 10-02-2015, 07:55 AM

Tom Benson sells half the team to Bill Belichick, he moves to New Orleans with Tom Brady and the Jets defense. All is well in Saints Land.

saintshrimp · 10-02-2015, 08:02 AM

I agree with you 100% but not with just players coaches too and if SP and Loomis don't wanna get rid of at least every defensive coach and some offensive coaches like the oline coach and rb coach then they should go too.
Also SP better start getting some new wrinkles in that playbook of his cause that thing is worn out

dizzle88 · 10-02-2015, 08:16 AM

I think Whilst Brees has value we should try and get what we can for him.
Coaches need to go and we need to start over.

I think we may need to move on from people like Ingram, Colston, Ben Watson, Josh hill, Brandon Browner.

In Ingram's case he's so infuriating to watch, he played awesome last year and Khiry is noticeably the better player this season.

Josh hill - SP built him up like a hall of famer this offseason, does he even have a catch so far?

RailBoss · 10-02-2015, 10:01 AM

I think the result of the Cows game will be the indicator for the rest of the season. 0-4 is hard to climb out of 1-3 they may not hit the panic button yet.

burningmetal · 10-02-2015, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think Whilst Brees has value we should try and get what we can for him.
Coaches need to go and we need to start over.

I think we may need to move on from people like Ingram, Colston, Ben Watson, Josh hill, Brandon Browner.

In Ingram's case he's so infuriating to watch, he played awesome last year and Khiry is noticeably the better player this season.

Josh hill - SP built him up like a hall of famer this offseason, does he even have a catch so far?

I've been confused about the hype over Hill for two years. I kept wondering what anyone thought they were seeing, because I saw an un-athletic looking guy who dropped a bunch of 4th down passes in his first year, and then caught about 7 passes the next, but because a few of them happened to be TD's people were crowning him the next star. To me it was simple. No one was looking at Josh Hill when we were in the redzone. If he were so great, he should have done something better than catch 7 or 8 passes.

rezburna · 10-02-2015, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I've been confused about the hype over Hill for two years. I kept wondering what anyone thought they were seeing, because I saw an un-athletic looking guy who dropped a bunch of 4th down passes in his first year, and then caught about 7 passes the next, but because they happened to be TD's people were crowning him the next star. To me it was simple. No one was looking at Josh Hill when we were in the redzone. If he were so great, he should have done something better than catch 7 or 8 passes.

Cosign.

darstep · 10-02-2015, 10:57 AM

Our talent level has dwindled and the replacements and fill-ins just haven't panned out.
A whole lot of things have to work together for good success.
After 2009, when everyone was looking to get paid, we seemed to have made all the wrong moves.
Even when we managed to find a nickel, we lost a dime.
Slow death; one small cut at a time.
I look around and try to find what's dependable so we could build from there...
Not seeing it.
Even the solid QB position is heading the way of the rest.
By the time we get all the other leaks plugged, Brees' replacement needs to already be high side.
Don't remember who said it earlier, "We are just a hot mess!"

vpheughan · 10-02-2015, 02:32 PM

We are what we are and it is what its. Our backs are against the wall, time to give 110%!! Teamwork makes the Dream work!! It's time to do something about it!! Rise UP! Rise Up! Oh wait I'm teaching my motivational speaking class in New Orleans this week! Who Dat! Who Dat!!

Halo · 10-02-2015, 02:49 PM

Which team is going to absorb Brees contract and 25+ million against the cap in 2016? He'll probably be guaranteed about 20 million.

If we cut him he's still counts pops our cap for about 8 million next year and maybe further while he'll ink a 17-20 million dollar contract with another team. A trade would be the only option.

I agree the front office has made some bad decisions, but if some of those gambles had paid off we would be calling them geniuses. Biggest disappointment has been the draft IMO, except in 2015 we've had the best draft in at least 5 years. Credit the front office for firing player personnel and scouts, and hiring a new team.

The decision to rebuilt this team came at the end of 2014 because in 2015 there are 25 new players and starters on the roster. That's the biggest turnover in the NFL. Rebuilding takes more than one offseason.

10-02-2015, 07:42 AM	#1
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Bite the bullet Saints FO needs to bite the bullet and start the rebuilding Now!. The team has drafted poorly and managed to put themselves deep into salary cap bell. This is going to be a painful process for the faithful.. It is time to cut our losses on high salary non performing players absorb the hits and move forward.We are no longer a team that is a few players from a championship. The draft is the key to turning around this team .Free agency is a useful tool for filling holes . Moving forward we need to be very careful spending on free agents. Stockpiling draft picks and not reaching on projects. Our coaching staff should be under great scrutiny,,scouting and personnel staff as well. It is time to make some big changes and build a team worthy of the best fans loyalty.It's not going to be easy and it's going to hurt but it time to bite the bullet and get it done. saintshrimp likes this.
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10-02-2015, 07:55 AM	#2
nutria Sac-A-Lait Join Date: May 2006 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 262	Re: Bite the bullet Tom Benson sells half the team to Bill Belichick, he moves to New Orleans with Tom Brady and the Jets defense. All is well in Saints Land.

10-02-2015, 08:02 AM	#3
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Bite the bullet I agree with you 100% but not with just players coaches too and if SP and Loomis don't wanna get rid of at least every defensive coach and some offensive coaches like the oline coach and rb coach then they should go too. Also SP better start getting some new wrinkles in that playbook of his cause that thing is worn out

10-02-2015, 08:16 AM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Bite the bullet I think Whilst Brees has value we should try and get what we can for him. Coaches need to go and we need to start over. I think we may need to move on from people like Ingram, Colston, Ben Watson, Josh hill, Brandon Browner. In Ingram's case he's so infuriating to watch, he played awesome last year and Khiry is noticeably the better player this season. Josh hill - SP built him up like a hall of famer this offseason, does he even have a catch so far?

10-02-2015, 10:01 AM	#5
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Bite the bullet I think the result of the Cows game will be the indicator for the rest of the season. 0-4 is hard to climb out of 1-3 they may not hit the panic button yet. darstep likes this.

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10-02-2015, 10:43 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bite the bullet Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think Whilst Brees has value we should try and get what we can for him. Coaches need to go and we need to start over. I think we may need to move on from people like Ingram, Colston, Ben Watson, Josh hill, Brandon Browner. In Ingram's case he's so infuriating to watch, he played awesome last year and Khiry is noticeably the better player this season. Josh hill - SP built him up like a hall of famer this offseason, does he even have a catch so far? I've been confused about the hype over Hill for two years. I kept wondering what anyone thought they were seeing, because I saw an un-athletic looking guy who dropped a bunch of 4th down passes in his first year, and then caught about 7 passes the next, but because a few of them happened to be TD's people were crowning him the next star. To me it was simple. No one was looking at Josh Hill when we were in the redzone. If he were so great, he should have done something better than catch 7 or 8 passes. dizzle88 and rezburna like this.
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10-02-2015, 10:46 AM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Bite the bullet Originally Posted by burningmetal I've been confused about the hype over Hill for two years. I kept wondering what anyone thought they were seeing, because I saw an un-athletic looking guy who dropped a bunch of 4th down passes in his first year, and then caught about 7 passes the next, but because they happened to be TD's people were crowning him the next star. To me it was simple. No one was looking at Josh Hill when we were in the redzone. If he were so great, he should have done something better than catch 7 or 8 passes. Cosign.

10-02-2015, 10:57 AM	#8
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Bite the bullet Our talent level has dwindled and the replacements and fill-ins just haven't panned out. A whole lot of things have to work together for good success. After 2009, when everyone was looking to get paid, we seemed to have made all the wrong moves. Even when we managed to find a nickel, we lost a dime. Slow death; one small cut at a time. I look around and try to find what's dependable so we could build from there... Not seeing it. Even the solid QB position is heading the way of the rest. By the time we get all the other leaks plugged, Brees' replacement needs to already be high side. Don't remember who said it earlier, "We are just a hot mess!"
	SaintSince67

10-02-2015, 02:32 PM	#9
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,519	Re: Bite the bullet We are what we are and it is what its. Our backs are against the wall, time to give 110%!! Teamwork makes the Dream work!! It's time to do something about it!! Rise UP! Rise Up! Oh wait I'm teaching my motivational speaking class in New Orleans this week! Who Dat! Who Dat!!
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10-02-2015, 02:49 PM	#10
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,602 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Bite the bullet Which team is going to absorb Brees contract and 25+ million against the cap in 2016? He'll probably be guaranteed about 20 million. If we cut him he's still counts pops our cap for about 8 million next year and maybe further while he'll ink a 17-20 million dollar contract with another team. A trade would be the only option. I agree the front office has made some bad decisions, but if some of those gambles had paid off we would be calling them geniuses. Biggest disappointment has been the draft IMO, except in 2015 we've had the best draft in at least 5 years. Credit the front office for firing player personnel and scouts, and hiring a new team. The decision to rebuilt this team came at the end of 2014 because in 2015 there are 25 new players and starters on the roster. That's the biggest turnover in the NFL. Rebuilding takes more than one offseason. captainshawn likes this.
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