Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC

Saint_LB · 02-13-2005, 09:38 AM

To get to any serious talk sbout another player on the saints, you\'ve first gotta go through a bunch of BS about Brooks.

Problem is, I don\'t think anyone is taking this thread very seriously, well, except you. :P

saintswhodi · 02-13-2005, 09:43 AM

This is a new low.

xrotflmao:

I am sure you will be saying this plenty more turbo.

GumboBC · 02-13-2005, 09:43 AM

FOR ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO BLAME BROOKS FOR JOE HORN BEING LAST IN THE NFL IN YAC........

READ \'EM AND WEEP BOYS!!

Donte\' Stallworth YAC = 6.0
Jerome Paython YAC = 4.3
Michael Lewis YAC = 3.4
Joe Horn YAC = 2.4

Joe is last in the NFL and last on the Saints in YAC!

Kinda disproves that Aaron Brooks is holding ol\' Joe back, now don\'t it?

What\'s that? Huh? :P :P

Saint_LB · 02-13-2005, 10:02 AM

FOR ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO BLAME BROOKS FOR JOE HORN BEING LAST IN THE NFL IN YAC........

READ \'EM AND WEEP BOYS!!

Donte\' Stallworth YAC = 6.0
Jerome Paython YAC = 4.3
Michael Lewis YAC = 3.4
Joe Horn YAC = 2.4

Joe is last in the NFL and last on the Saints in YAC!

Kinda disproves that Aaron Brooks is holding ol\' Joe back, now don\'t it?

What\'s that? Huh? :P :P

Aaron...is that you?

JOESAM2002 · 02-13-2005, 10:04 AM

Weak! I hope you can do better than this.

GumboBC · 02-13-2005, 10:08 AM

Weak! I hope you can do better than this.

I\'m assuming you\'re talking to me?

No, I can do no better.....LMAO!!

I\'ve brought all the facts to the table. You might not find it odd that our number 1 receiver (Joe Horn) is last in the NFL in YAC and last on the Saints in YAC, but I find it very interesting.

Or maybe you weren\'t talking to me at all.

Maybe when you refered to someone making a \"weak\" post you were refering to the folks blaming Brooks for Joe being last in YAC.

In any event, that\'s the best I could do... :P

[Edited on 13/2/2005 by GumboBC]

[Edited on 13/2/2005 by GumboBC]

turbo_dog · 02-13-2005, 02:36 PM

Did anybody notice how good Joe was at the low balls in the skills challenge yesterday? I guess he\'s had a lot of practice with those. Seems like everytime I see him make a catch on a slant he has to catch the ball about a foot or two off the turf.

WhoDat · 02-13-2005, 03:06 PM

This is where this thread should have ended.

Maybe if Brooks would hit him in stride rather than making him slow down and catch it behind him, he would have better YAC.

I wish Joe would shut his mouth, but digging up little stats like this is unbelieveable. Who cares? Of course, there isn\'t an ulterior motive going on here. This is the second thread about one of our star players in some odd attempt to deflect criticism from Brooks. Nice.

Let\'s see, so Mr. Football in the last few months has harshly criticized Joe Horn, Deuce McAllister, Peyton Manning, Bill Parcells, and Bill Bellichek. On the other hand, he vehemently supports Aaron Brooks and Jim Haslett, and has even made excuses for Venturi.

Name one player on the team who has played better than Joe Horn in the last 5 years. ONE. End of discussion.

GumboBC · 02-14-2005, 09:59 AM

Let\'s see, so Mr. Football in the last few months has harshly criticized Joe Horn, Deuce McAllister, Peyton Manning, Bill Parcells, and Bill Bellichek. On the other hand, he vehemently supports Aaron Brooks and Jim Haslett, and has even made excuses for Venturi.

Name one player on the team who has played better than Joe Horn in the last 5 years. ONE. End of discussion.

No, I aint\' \"Mr. Football\", but I can look at things objectively! Which I feel some folks can\'t!

I never said Joe Horn wasn\'t a good receiver. I\'m not bashing Joe Horn.

Joe does a good job at many things. But there are certain things that Joe is lacking that seperates him from the \"elite\" receivers.

\"Elite\", to me, means the \"total\" package. Joe lacks the ability to break the long one. He simply doesn\'t have the ability that a Marvion Harrison, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, or a Chad Johnson has. And there\'s plenty more I could name.

What makes Joe Horn good is his ability to run routes and get open on a consistent basis. But, where ever Joe catches the ball is usually where he gets tackled. As his YAC suggests. But, we don\'t need to see Joe\'s stats for YAC as we can all see Joe really never breaks the long one.

Ideally, you\'d like to have a number 1 receiver that has the ability to take any pass to the house.

Joe, IMO, ranks somewhere in the top 10 to 15 WR\'s in the game.

Joe stats are good every year. But, I think, to a certain extent, Joe\'s stats are a product of our offense passing more than ANY OTHER offense in the NFL. And of course, Joe is the number 1 receiver in a offense that passes the ball more that ANY OTHER offense in the NFL..

Now, you can write that FACT off. And you can write off the FACT that Joe Horn is LAST in the NFL in YAC.

Believe what you want. If you want to believe Joe is one of the \"eltie\" receivers, that\'s your business.

I believe Joe is damn good. Elite? No No....

spkb25 · 02-14-2005, 10:20 PM

granted i only looked at the original post. i cant imagine trying to bad mouth joe. thats just not to smart. the guy is the best to ever wear the saints uni at wo

02-13-2005, 09:38 AM	#11
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC To get to any serious talk sbout another player on the saints, you\'ve first gotta go through a bunch of BS about Brooks. Problem is, I don\'t think anyone is taking this thread very seriously, well, except you. :P
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02-13-2005, 09:43 AM	#12
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC This is a new low. xrotflmao: I am sure you will be saying this plenty more turbo.

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GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC FOR ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO BLAME BROOKS FOR JOE HORN BEING LAST IN THE NFL IN YAC........ READ \'EM AND WEEP BOYS!! Donte\' Stallworth YAC = 6.0 Jerome Paython YAC = 4.3 Michael Lewis YAC = 3.4 Joe Horn YAC = 2.4 Joe is last in the NFL and last on the Saints in YAC! Kinda disproves that Aaron Brooks is holding ol\' Joe back, now don\'t it? What\'s that? Huh? :P :P
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02-13-2005, 10:02 AM	#14
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC FOR ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO BLAME BROOKS FOR JOE HORN BEING LAST IN THE NFL IN YAC........ READ \'EM AND WEEP BOYS!! Donte\' Stallworth YAC = 6.0 Jerome Paython YAC = 4.3 Michael Lewis YAC = 3.4 Joe Horn YAC = 2.4 Joe is last in the NFL and last on the Saints in YAC! Kinda disproves that Aaron Brooks is holding ol\' Joe back, now don\'t it? What\'s that? Huh? :P :P Aaron...is that you?
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02-13-2005, 10:08 AM	#16
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC Weak! I hope you can do better than this. I\'m assuming you\'re talking to me? No, I can do no better.....LMAO!! I\'ve brought all the facts to the table. You might not find it odd that our number 1 receiver (Joe Horn) is last in the NFL in YAC and last on the Saints in YAC, but I find it very interesting. Or maybe you weren\'t talking to me at all. Maybe when you refered to someone making a \"weak\" post you were refering to the folks blaming Brooks for Joe being last in YAC. In any event, that\'s the best I could do... :P [Edited on 13/2/2005 by GumboBC] [Edited on 13/2/2005 by GumboBC]
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02-13-2005, 02:36 PM	#17
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC Did anybody notice how good Joe was at the low balls in the skills challenge yesterday? I guess he\'s had a lot of practice with those. Seems like everytime I see him make a catch on a slant he has to catch the ball about a foot or two off the turf.

02-13-2005, 03:06 PM	#18
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC This is where this thread should have ended. Maybe if Brooks would hit him in stride rather than making him slow down and catch it behind him, he would have better YAC. I wish Joe would shut his mouth, but digging up little stats like this is unbelieveable. Who cares? Of course, there isn\'t an ulterior motive going on here. This is the second thread about one of our star players in some odd attempt to deflect criticism from Brooks. Nice. Let\'s see, so Mr. Football in the last few months has harshly criticized Joe Horn, Deuce McAllister, Peyton Manning, Bill Parcells, and Bill Bellichek. On the other hand, he vehemently supports Aaron Brooks and Jim Haslett, and has even made excuses for Venturi. Name one player on the team who has played better than Joe Horn in the last 5 years. ONE. End of discussion.
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02-14-2005, 09:59 AM	#19
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC Let\'s see, so Mr. Football in the last few months has harshly criticized Joe Horn, Deuce McAllister, Peyton Manning, Bill Parcells, and Bill Bellichek. On the other hand, he vehemently supports Aaron Brooks and Jim Haslett, and has even made excuses for Venturi. Name one player on the team who has played better than Joe Horn in the last 5 years. ONE. End of discussion. No, I aint\' \"Mr. Football\", but I can look at things objectively! Which I feel some folks can\'t! I never said Joe Horn wasn\'t a good receiver. I\'m not bashing Joe Horn. Joe does a good job at many things. But there are certain things that Joe is lacking that seperates him from the \"elite\" receivers. \"Elite\", to me, means the \"total\" package. Joe lacks the ability to break the long one. He simply doesn\'t have the ability that a Marvion Harrison, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, or a Chad Johnson has. And there\'s plenty more I could name. What makes Joe Horn good is his ability to run routes and get open on a consistent basis. But, where ever Joe catches the ball is usually where he gets tackled. As his YAC suggests. But, we don\'t need to see Joe\'s stats for YAC as we can all see Joe really never breaks the long one. Ideally, you\'d like to have a number 1 receiver that has the ability to take any pass to the house. Joe, IMO, ranks somewhere in the top 10 to 15 WR\'s in the game. Joe stats are good every year. But, I think, to a certain extent, Joe\'s stats are a product of our offense passing more than ANY OTHER offense in the NFL. And of course, Joe is the number 1 receiver in a offense that passes the ball more that ANY OTHER offense in the NFL.. Now, you can write that FACT off. And you can write off the FACT that Joe Horn is LAST in the NFL in YAC. Believe what you want. If you want to believe Joe is one of the \"eltie\" receivers, that\'s your business. I believe Joe is damn good. Elite? No No....
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02-14-2005, 10:20 PM	#20
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Joe Horn ranks last in the NFL in YAC granted i only looked at the original post. i cant imagine trying to bad mouth joe. thats just not to smart. the guy is the best to ever wear the saints uni at wo