It might be time to blow it up

Euphoria · 10-11-2015, 07:16 PM

CLEAN HOUSE!!!

AlaskaSaints · 10-11-2015, 07:49 PM

You KNOW **** just got real when Danno suggests wholesaling Ingram.

:-]]

Yup. Time to blow it all up and start again. This level of play and coaching is just demeaning to the recently PROUD Saints Organization.

NOLA54 · 10-11-2015, 07:58 PM

It seems like the explosion has begun.

The Dude · 10-11-2015, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I didn't see the 4th quarter because I fell asleep. I haven't fallen asleep during a Saints game since the Haslett era. I'm guessing that may be a sign.

I hope we make some drastic changes going into next year. The cupboard isn't bare so we still have a lot of attractive talent for the next regime to work with, but I'd prefer to give our new staff more picks and more cap room to work with.

Out with the old...
Get what we can out of our aging vets before the trade deadline, or during the off-season. I'm not sure what a contender would give us, and I haven't looked at the cap hits that may prevent some of these moves, but here's my garage sale list...

Brees
Colston
Watson
Strief
Ingram
Hawthorne
Bush
Morstead

I realize we wouldn't get much or anything for these guys but we might catch a team desperate for a veteran stop-gap or depth for their playoff run.

Loomis found Payton in 2006, and I think he can also find the next young up and coming hot coordinator.

In with the new...

Keep all our young talent, including Jordan. I think with the right DC, Cam can be a top 5 DE in this game.

Get back to the formula for success we've used in the past. Fill holes with 2nd tier free-agents, not the super high priced splash guys. Gimmee the Jabari Greers, Jon Vilmas, and the Keenan Lewis types.

Its a great formula if you also hit on your draft picks, which failed us over the last 6 or 7 years. The 2015 draft gives me hope that we currently have the talent evaluators we need.

We also failed some of our draft picks. Jenkins has been solid for his career with the Eagles and others have too. but yes our drafting has been bad. We do better with UDFAs than our picks.

I would keep Moorstead and Ingram. Other than that Im all with you. Jorden would go anywhere else and be an all pro. We MUST hang on to him.

I just dont know how good this franchise looks anymore for prospective coaches and players. We got a lot of good FA's because Drew and Payton were getting it done and the SAints looked to be on the way to a dynasty. Now the **** has really hit the fan and I dont think Coaches and players are gonna be just chomping at the bit to come here. The cap situation is discouraging to any GM or coach, and good veterans want to go to teams that A. actually have the money to spend to pay them and B. look to be winners.
Hell with Bensons legal situations who knows where the team will be 5-10 years down the road.

neugey · 10-11-2015, 09:29 PM

If we get to that bye week and we are still sitting at 1 or 2 wins, it might be time for the pink slips. If Falcons destroy us for 40+ points, Ryan won't last that long.

IMO we can give Payton the next five weeks to show he hasn't lost the team, and then we will see where that takes us.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-12-2015, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

IMO we can give Payton the next five weeks to show he hasn't lost the team, and then we will see where that takes us.

Payton has not lost the team. He has lost "it".

You can see it in the way he conducts himself on the sideline. The only time he chews anyone's ass is Rob Ryan. And frankly, at this point, he has no business chewing Rob Ryan's ass. B

This is not the same coach signaling 1st downs with his crutch, or calling on-side kicks in the SB. This is a guy who's become extremely predictable, and has no passion for the game anymore.

ChrisXVI · 10-11-2015, 09:34 PM

Might be time?? It is time. We're putting together losing season's nowadays WITH Payton and Brees. Things haven't been right for a while now.

saintsfan1976 · 10-11-2015, 09:54 PM

It's time for a regime change.

Halo · 10-11-2015, 10:10 PM

Trade Brees
Trade everybody
Dynamite the Dome
Hand over the team to Rita Leblanc Benson and the Texas Heirs
Move the team to San Antonio
Fans have orgy

PROBLEM SOLVED!

neugey · 10-12-2015, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Trade Brees
Trade everybody
Dynamite the Dome
Hand over the team to Rita Leblanc Benson and the Texas Heirs
Move the team to San Antonio
Fans have orgy

PROBLEM SOLVED!

Can we get the Saintsations included in that orgy?

10-11-2015, 07:16 PM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: It might be time to blow it up CLEAN HOUSE!!!

10-11-2015, 07:49 PM	#2
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: It might be time to blow it up You KNOW **** just got real when Danno suggests wholesaling Ingram. :-]] Yup. Time to blow it all up and start again. This level of play and coaching is just demeaning to the recently PROUD Saints Organization. Halo and SmashMouth like this.

10-11-2015, 07:58 PM	#3
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: It might be time to blow it up It seems like the explosion has begun.

10-11-2015, 08:10 PM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: It might be time to blow it up Originally Posted by Danno I didn't see the 4th quarter because I fell asleep. I haven't fallen asleep during a Saints game since the Haslett era. I'm guessing that may be a sign. I hope we make some drastic changes going into next year. The cupboard isn't bare so we still have a lot of attractive talent for the next regime to work with, but I'd prefer to give our new staff more picks and more cap room to work with. Out with the old... Get what we can out of our aging vets before the trade deadline, or during the off-season. I'm not sure what a contender would give us, and I haven't looked at the cap hits that may prevent some of these moves, but here's my garage sale list... Brees Colston Watson Strief Ingram Hawthorne Bush Morstead I realize we wouldn't get much or anything for these guys but we might catch a team desperate for a veteran stop-gap or depth for their playoff run. Loomis found Payton in 2006, and I think he can also find the next young up and coming hot coordinator. In with the new... Keep all our young talent, including Jordan. I think with the right DC, Cam can be a top 5 DE in this game. Get back to the formula for success we've used in the past. Fill holes with 2nd tier free-agents, not the super high priced splash guys. Gimmee the Jabari Greers, Jon Vilmas, and the Keenan Lewis types. Its a great formula if you also hit on your draft picks, which failed us over the last 6 or 7 years. The 2015 draft gives me hope that we currently have the talent evaluators we need. We also failed some of our draft picks. Jenkins has been solid for his career with the Eagles and others have too. but yes our drafting has been bad. We do better with UDFAs than our picks. I would keep Moorstead and Ingram. Other than that Im all with you. Jorden would go anywhere else and be an all pro. We MUST hang on to him. I just dont know how good this franchise looks anymore for prospective coaches and players. We got a lot of good FA's because Drew and Payton were getting it done and the SAints looked to be on the way to a dynasty. Now the **** has really hit the fan and I dont think Coaches and players are gonna be just chomping at the bit to come here. The cap situation is discouraging to any GM or coach, and good veterans want to go to teams that A. actually have the money to spend to pay them and B. look to be winners. Hell with Bensons legal situations who knows where the team will be 5-10 years down the road. hagan714 likes this.
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10-11-2015, 09:29 PM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: It might be time to blow it up If we get to that bye week and we are still sitting at 1 or 2 wins, it might be time for the pink slips. If Falcons destroy us for 40+ points, Ryan won't last that long. IMO we can give Payton the next five weeks to show he hasn't lost the team, and then we will see where that takes us.

10-12-2015, 12:15 AM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: It might be time to blow it up Originally Posted by neugey IMO we can give Payton the next five weeks to show he hasn't lost the team, and then we will see where that takes us. Payton has not lost the team. He has lost "it". You can see it in the way he conducts himself on the sideline. The only time he chews anyone's ass is Rob Ryan. And frankly, at this point, he has no business chewing Rob Ryan's ass. B This is not the same coach signaling 1st downs with his crutch, or calling on-side kicks in the SB. This is a guy who's become extremely predictable, and has no passion for the game anymore. Halo and Danno like this.

10-11-2015, 09:34 PM	#7
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: It might be time to blow it up Might be time?? It is time. We're putting together losing season's nowadays WITH Payton and Brees. Things haven't been right for a while now. mleg1972 and K Major like this.

10-11-2015, 09:54 PM	#8
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: It might be time to blow it up It's time for a regime change.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	Re: It might be time to blow it up Trade Brees Trade everybody Dynamite the Dome Hand over the team to Rita Leblanc Benson and the Texas Heirs Move the team to San Antonio Fans have orgy PROBLEM SOLVED! neugey, hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.

10-12-2015, 07:23 AM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: It might be time to blow it up Originally Posted by Halo Trade Brees Trade everybody Dynamite the Dome Hand over the team to Rita Leblanc Benson and the Texas Heirs Move the team to San Antonio Fans have orgy PROBLEM SOLVED! Can we get the Saintsations included in that orgy? Halo and Rugby Saint II like this.

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