Random Musings by the Dude

neugey · 10-11-2015, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Rob Ryan should be fired but our defensive woes are on Payton. Plenty of our early round defensive picks looked to be wasted until they moved on to another team. Jenkins has been solid this year. That is proof that its us, not the players. Payton can blame RR all he wants but at the end of the day Payton is the head coach and should step in if he thinks Rob is that bad. Payton is a one trick pony. Great offensive coordinator but bad head coach. Its like he has told himself that he is so good at offense that he doesnt need to be bothered to learn or coach anything regarding defense.

I was stuck at home w/ no Saints football and watching the end of the Chiefs game, Tracy Porter looked pretty good with the Bears. Had a clutch defleciton on third 3rd down to help in the Bears comeback. Maybe we should have picked him up instead of committing to Browner

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Halo · 10-11-2015, 09:37 PM

OK so your QB is not 100%, even still bruised rotator cuff....
OK so the o-line has aged vets on that play about 75% of their potential from a few years ago...
OK so rookies are trying to rotate on your o-line...
OK so the WR talent poole is about 1/2 what it was even a year ago...

THEN Why come up with a gameplan that forces your QB to hold the ball for 10 seconds for a passing play to develop???

Why jeopardize your partially injured QB?
Why allow your o-line to be exploited drive after drive?
Why put your QB in situations where no one is open and he tries to force it!?

If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish?

I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense.

Barry from MS · 10-13-2015, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense.

Me, too. Did y'all know that Ingram has more touches (92) than every player on the offense besides Brees with the next closest KRob with 43?

Think about that. Mark Ingram is the center of our offense now.

With our patch-work NFL o-line and a running back who's claim to fame is running behind Bama's NFL-caliber o-line in college, we sit and wonder why we can't outscore anyone.

WillSaints81 · 10-13-2015, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Me, too. Did y'all know that Ingram has more touches (92) than every player on the offense besides Brees with the next closest KRob with 43?

Think about that. Mark Ingram is the center of our offense now.

With our patch-work NFL o-line and a running back who's claim to fame is running behind Bama's NFL-caliber o-line in college, we sit and wonder why we can't outscore anyone.

Ingram is about to play easier run defenses coming up. Arizona, Carolina, and Philadelphia can stop the run. Dallas, Idk.

Barry from MS · 10-13-2015, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Ingram is about to play easier run defenses coming up. Arizona, Carolina, and Philadelphia can stop the run. Dallas, Idk.

Oh, I get it...trust me, I get it. I'm just as confused & frustrated as some others are as to why Ingram is getting double the touches as KRob (92 to 43) and why in the wild-wide-world of sports has Spiller touched the ball only 20 times in 3 games? Reckon C.J. can't grasp the offense?

Ingram also is 2nd in receptions with 24...that is 1 behind Cooks' 25 receptions. That is how bad our receivers & tight ends are at getting open.

This offense is a hot mess. We rack up yards only when we're down 2 or 3 scores in the 4th, it seems. It sure pads them stats, though. Sorry for that, but ain't it kinda sad to keep Brees in there chunking it around 39-10 late in the 4th Quarter when you have Grayson on the sideline to develop for the future? Seems selfish on Payton's & Brees' part to me, but what do I know...

xan · 10-13-2015, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

OK so your QB is not 100%, even still bruised rotator cuff....
OK so the o-line has aged vets on that play about 75% of their potential from a few years ago...
OK so rookies are trying to rotate on your o-line...
OK so the WR talent poole is about 1/2 what it was even a year ago...

THEN Why come up with a gameplan that forces your QB to hold the ball for 10 seconds for a passing play to develop???

Why jeopardize your partially injured QB?
Why allow your o-line to be exploited drive after drive?
Why put your QB in situations where no one is open and he tries to force it!?

If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish?

I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense.

Is there any way to quadruple like this?

Danno · 10-13-2015, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish?

I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense.

Well you'd be the only one confused. 31 other teams aren't confused at all.

10-11-2015, 09:16 PM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,877 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by The Dude Rob Ryan should be fired but our defensive woes are on Payton. Plenty of our early round defensive picks looked to be wasted until they moved on to another team. Jenkins has been solid this year. That is proof that its us, not the players. Payton can blame RR all he wants but at the end of the day Payton is the head coach and should step in if he thinks Rob is that bad. Payton is a one trick pony. Great offensive coordinator but bad head coach. Its like he has told himself that he is so good at offense that he doesnt need to be bothered to learn or coach anything regarding defense. I was stuck at home w/ no Saints football and watching the end of the Chiefs game, Tracy Porter looked pretty good with the Bears. Had a clutch defleciton on third 3rd down to help in the Bears comeback. Maybe we should have picked him up instead of committing to Browner .

10-11-2015, 09:37 PM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,903 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Random Musings by the Dude OK so your QB is not 100%, even still bruised rotator cuff.... OK so the o-line has aged vets on that play about 75% of their potential from a few years ago... OK so rookies are trying to rotate on your o-line... OK so the WR talent poole is about 1/2 what it was even a year ago... THEN Why come up with a gameplan that forces your QB to hold the ball for 10 seconds for a passing play to develop??? Why jeopardize your partially injured QB? Why allow your o-line to be exploited drive after drive? Why put your QB in situations where no one is open and he tries to force it!? If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish? I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense. Danno, xan, neugey and 6 others like this.
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10-13-2015, 12:10 PM	#3
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by Halo I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense. Me, too. Did y'all know that Ingram has more touches (92) than every player on the offense besides Brees with the next closest KRob with 43? Think about that. Mark Ingram is the center of our offense now. With our patch-work NFL o-line and a running back who's claim to fame is running behind Bama's NFL-caliber o-line in college, we sit and wonder why we can't outscore anyone. Halo likes this.

10-13-2015, 05:45 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by Barry from MS Me, too. Did y'all know that Ingram has more touches (92) than every player on the offense besides Brees with the next closest KRob with 43? Think about that. Mark Ingram is the center of our offense now. With our patch-work NFL o-line and a running back who's claim to fame is running behind Bama's NFL-caliber o-line in college, we sit and wonder why we can't outscore anyone. Ingram is about to play easier run defenses coming up. Arizona, Carolina, and Philadelphia can stop the run. Dallas, Idk.

10-13-2015, 08:20 PM	#5
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Ingram is about to play easier run defenses coming up. Arizona, Carolina, and Philadelphia can stop the run. Dallas, Idk. Oh, I get it...trust me, I get it. I'm just as confused & frustrated as some others are as to why Ingram is getting double the touches as KRob (92 to 43) and why in the wild-wide-world of sports has Spiller touched the ball only 20 times in 3 games? Reckon C.J. can't grasp the offense? Ingram also is *2nd* in receptions with 24...that is 1 behind Cooks' 25 receptions. That is how bad our receivers & tight ends are at getting open. This offense is a hot mess. We rack up yards only when we're down 2 or 3 scores in the 4th, it seems. It sure pads them stats, though. Sorry for that, but ain't it kinda sad to keep Brees in there chunking it around 39-10 late in the 4th Quarter when you have Grayson on the sideline to develop for the future? Seems selfish on Payton's & Brees' part to me, but what do I know...
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10-13-2015, 03:19 PM	#6
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by Halo OK so your QB is not 100%, even still bruised rotator cuff.... OK so the o-line has aged vets on that play about 75% of their potential from a few years ago... OK so rookies are trying to rotate on your o-line... OK so the WR talent poole is about 1/2 what it was even a year ago... THEN Why come up with a gameplan that forces your QB to hold the ball for 10 seconds for a passing play to develop??? Why jeopardize your partially injured QB? Why allow your o-line to be exploited drive after drive? Why put your QB in situations where no one is open and he tries to force it!? If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish? I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense. Is there any way to quadruple like this? Halo and neugey like this.

10-13-2015, 05:31 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by Halo If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish? I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense. Well you'd be the only one confused. 31 other teams aren't confused at all. Halo, neugey and RailBoss like this.

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