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alsaints113 · 02-13-2005, 01:00 PM

OK, I never formally introduced myself on this forum so now I will. I'll also put out everything I agree with or disagree with as far as the Saints World is concerned:

I'm an almost 27 year old Molecular Biology Ph.D. student originally from Pennsylvania but now in Shreveport (TEXAS...lol) for graduate school. My dad is originally from New Orleans so I have been there several times (and seen Saints games) to see family. This is at the root of my love for the city and the team. I'll be moving there (in with my fiance)once I finish my Ph.D. so hopefully the Saints are still there.

OK so now on to my Saints opinions, at their most basic:

1.) Aaron Brooks...lets get this one out of the way. He is a pretty darn good QB when he wants to be but mades some awful mistakes. I have to say I would like to see someone come in and push him for his job...hopefully someone proven. Brees and Rivers makes me nervous.

2.) Deuce...He is the man.

3.) Karnivore...He rocks, but the coaches need to get off that dumb two TE set to let him give Deuce the proper blocking. This would keep Deuce healthier, and probably result in more yardage for the Ole Miss alum.

4.) Wide receivers...I love Joe Horn, his heart is something else. Donte is the second coming of Sean Dawkins (pass dropper extraordinaire). Maybe Devery could actually get some starts and push Donte to be what he can be. Pathon...well he's probably not staying from what I have read.

5.) TE...we need someone with consistency here. The two headed Boo-Well moster just didn't cut it. But we also need our own identity. I see no reason to follow the TE bandwagon when we have the receivers we have.

6.) OL...AWFUL. Not sure what to do here, I just know they aren't that good. Riley needs to wake up and pay attention. The line hasn't been the same without Fontenot and Turley...yes I liked Turley's fire a lot. Maybe in the end, this revamped line just needs more time together. It isn't good to keep on messing with lines...they need chemistry.

7.) DL...Grant rocks, Smith rocks, Howard = bye bye, Youg is OK I guess. They need to settle on a fourth lineman. Is it going to be Green, Whitehead, Leisle or what?

8.) LB corps...I really like Watson, when I get to see them play (when they dont show the stupid Cowgirls up here) I am really impressed by him. That's about it...this is a huge hole in the team.

9.) secondary...McKenzie gives them heart (see last 4 games of the season). Fahkir Brown is an up and comer. Thomas needs to stay healthy and return to his '03 form. Other than that they're alright now but we need to pick up somebody in free agency or the draft (better free agency) to push these guys, especially Tebucky. There's room for improvement is what I mean.

10.) Team overall...If they play this next season like the last 4 games of last, they'll be poised for a long playoff run.

11.) Coaches. Sayanora McCarthy...smart decision, this guy is so predictable. Not sure why they decided to get away from the things that made them one of the higest scoring offenses. Venturi must spedn most of his days under Benson's desk. He needed to go a long time ago and I still think so. Haslett: If he really had a lot to do with the defense th elast 4 games, then he needs to keep it up. I don't disagree with his not being fired/extension because it isn't his fault the players aren't up to par. Haslett doesn't cause 20 yard backward passes, dumb INT's, mistackles, no blocking, offsides. I'm sure he doesn't sit by and not say anything to the players after these things either. Hasletts a fiery guy, he probably tears them a new one.

OK, thats it. So now you see where I stand. I don't think I'm a sunshiner or a moonshiner. I think there are bad things and good things but I like to concentrate on the good in hopes that one day...ONE DAY...we may drink from the cup of sweet victory.

P.S. I don't see anything wrong with the Superdome so Benson needs to chill. He just wants money and to keep up with the Joneses.

saintswhodi · 02-13-2005, 01:07 PM

Nice lay-out. Now we know who you are. I won\'t bother agreeing or disagreeing on any points but just say welcome, and sorry for the earlier skirmishes. I am sure there will be more, and we have plenty of time for that.

JKool · 02-13-2005, 01:11 PM

113, welcome.

Let me ask you a question about this, since you brought it up: is there really reason to think that bringing in competition for a player\'s spot will make him better? I hear it said a lot, and I was just thinking about it (so don\'t take it as a challenge, it is just an area of interest for me).

It is my view that some guys thrive under competition and other guys fold. When I used to coach, we had some kids that played better when your rode them, and others that just crumbled. I guess, I sort of think that bringing in compettion is like that too.

What do you think?

alsaints113 · 02-13-2005, 01:12 PM

No problem, our skirmishes were fun for us and the whole forum I bet. I figured after that, it would be best to actually introduce myself and let everyone know where I stand. I hope my opinions here don\'t get used against me if they ever change.

saintswhodi · 02-13-2005, 01:13 PM

I am sure they will.

But I will try not to hold them against you.

alsaints113 · 02-13-2005, 01:18 PM

JKool,

I think that this is something taht is applied differently to different players. I would hope that the coaches know their players well enough to be able to judge this. As an example, I think Brooks would benefit because he is totally full of himself and he needs someone to humble him...some good competition. His relaxed attitude causes mistakes and he\'s way too comfortable as our starting QB even when not performing well at all.

I don\'t think it is a 100% surefire way to motivate someone. Like I said I agree with you. This is used on a per person basis. Myself, I know that I am the kind of person who likes competition and performs at anything much better when someone is riding me (including my fiance....)

JKool · 02-13-2005, 01:23 PM

JKool · 02-13-2005, 01:24 PM

In all seriousness though, I agree. Bringing in competition is not a sure-fire way to motivate a player (or make them any better). I was just wondering if people had thoughts on this.

turbo_dog · 02-13-2005, 01:45 PM

Welcome to the board.

What school is in Shreveport?

Saint_LB · 02-13-2005, 01:51 PM

In all seriousness though, I agree. Bringing in competition is not a sure-fire way to motivate a player (or make them any better). I was just wondering if people had thoughts on this.

Well, since you asked, this is my take on it. I think that if you have a player that you have to coddle, then you are in trouble. These guys are grown men, and should not have to be babied. I hope I am wrong, but it almost seems that this is exactly what they have done during AB\'s tenure here. It would explain why we have a back-up now that would appear to never be more than that in the NFL. AB feels that his position is safe, and feels no need to take it to the next level, which would explain why we have appeared to be treading water over the last four years. JMO, so Gumbo, et al, please don\'t jump me.

02-13-2005, 01:00 PM	#1
alsaints113 Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 95	What does alsaints113 stand for OK, I never formally introduced myself on this forum so now I will. I'll also put out everything I agree with or disagree with as far as the Saints World is concerned: I'm an almost 27 year old Molecular Biology Ph.D. student originally from Pennsylvania but now in Shreveport (TEXAS...lol) for graduate school. My dad is originally from New Orleans so I have been there several times (and seen Saints games) to see family. This is at the root of my love for the city and the team. I'll be moving there (in with my fiance)once I finish my Ph.D. so hopefully the Saints are still there. OK so now on to my Saints opinions, at their most basic: 1.) Aaron Brooks...lets get this one out of the way. He is a pretty darn good QB when he wants to be but mades some awful mistakes. I have to say I would like to see someone come in and push him for his job...hopefully someone proven. Brees and Rivers makes me nervous. 2.) Deuce...He is the man. 3.) Karnivore...He rocks, but the coaches need to get off that dumb two TE set to let him give Deuce the proper blocking. This would keep Deuce healthier, and probably result in more yardage for the Ole Miss alum. 4.) Wide receivers...I love Joe Horn, his heart is something else. Donte is the second coming of Sean Dawkins (pass dropper extraordinaire). Maybe Devery could actually get some starts and push Donte to be what he can be. Pathon...well he's probably not staying from what I have read. 5.) TE...we need someone with consistency here. The two headed Boo-Well moster just didn't cut it. But we also need our own identity. I see no reason to follow the TE bandwagon when we have the receivers we have. 6.) OL...AWFUL. Not sure what to do here, I just know they aren't that good. Riley needs to wake up and pay attention. The line hasn't been the same without Fontenot and Turley...yes I liked Turley's fire a lot. Maybe in the end, this revamped line just needs more time together. It isn't good to keep on messing with lines...they need chemistry. 7.) DL...Grant rocks, Smith rocks, Howard = bye bye, Youg is OK I guess. They need to settle on a fourth lineman. Is it going to be Green, Whitehead, Leisle or what? 8.) LB corps...I really like Watson, when I get to see them play (when they dont show the stupid Cowgirls up here) I am really impressed by him. That's about it...this is a huge hole in the team. 9.) secondary...McKenzie gives them heart (see last 4 games of the season). Fahkir Brown is an up and comer. Thomas needs to stay healthy and return to his '03 form. Other than that they're alright now but we need to pick up somebody in free agency or the draft (better free agency) to push these guys, especially Tebucky. There's room for improvement is what I mean. 10.) Team overall...If they play this next season like the last 4 games of last, they'll be poised for a long playoff run. 11.) Coaches. Sayanora McCarthy...smart decision, this guy is so predictable. Not sure why they decided to get away from the things that made them one of the higest scoring offenses. Venturi must spedn most of his days under Benson's desk. He needed to go a long time ago and I still think so. Haslett: If he really had a lot to do with the defense th elast 4 games, then he needs to keep it up. I don't disagree with his not being fired/extension because it isn't his fault the players aren't up to par. Haslett doesn't cause 20 yard backward passes, dumb INT's, mistackles, no blocking, offsides. I'm sure he doesn't sit by and not say anything to the players after these things either. Hasletts a fiery guy, he probably tears them a new one. OK, thats it. So now you see where I stand. I don't think I'm a sunshiner or a moonshiner. I think there are bad things and good things but I like to concentrate on the good in hopes that one day...ONE DAY...we may drink from the cup of sweet victory. P.S. I don't see anything wrong with the Superdome so Benson needs to chill. He just wants money and to keep up with the Joneses.
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02-13-2005, 01:07 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	What does alsaints113 stand for Nice lay-out. Now we know who you are. I won\'t bother agreeing or disagreeing on any points but just say welcome, and sorry for the earlier skirmishes. I am sure there will be more, and we have plenty of time for that.

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JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	What does alsaints113 stand for 113, welcome. Let me ask you a question about this, since you brought it up: is there really reason to think that bringing in competition for a player\'s spot will make him better? I hear it said a lot, and I was just thinking about it (so don\'t take it as a challenge, it is just an area of interest for me). It is my view that some guys thrive under competition and other guys fold. When I used to coach, we had some kids that played better when your rode them, and others that just crumbled. I guess, I sort of think that bringing in compettion is like that too. What do you think?
	"... I was beating them with my eyes the whole game..." - Aaron Brooks

02-13-2005, 01:12 PM	#4
alsaints113 Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 95	What does alsaints113 stand for No problem, our skirmishes were fun for us and the whole forum I bet. I figured after that, it would be best to actually introduce myself and let everyone know where I stand. I hope my opinions here don\'t get used against me if they ever change.
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	What does alsaints113 stand for I am sure they will. But I will try not to hold them against you.

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02-13-2005, 01:18 PM	#6
alsaints113 Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 95	What does alsaints113 stand for JKool, I think that this is something taht is applied differently to different players. I would hope that the coaches know their players well enough to be able to judge this. As an example, I think Brooks would benefit because he is totally full of himself and he needs someone to humble him...some good competition. His relaxed attitude causes mistakes and he\'s way too comfortable as our starting QB even when not performing well at all. I don\'t think it is a 100% surefire way to motivate someone. Like I said I agree with you. This is used on a per person basis. Myself, I know that I am the kind of person who likes competition and performs at anything much better when someone is riding me (including my fiance....)
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02-13-2005, 01:24 PM	#8
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	What does alsaints113 stand for In all seriousness though, I agree. Bringing in competition is not a sure-fire way to motivate a player (or make them any better). I was just wondering if people had thoughts on this.

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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,540	What does alsaints113 stand for Welcome to the board. What school is in Shreveport?

02-13-2005, 01:51 PM	#10
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	What does alsaints113 stand for In all seriousness though, I agree. Bringing in competition is not a sure-fire way to motivate a player (or make them any better). I was just wondering if people had thoughts on this. Well, since you asked, this is my take on it. I think that if you have a player that you have to coddle, then you are in trouble. These guys are grown men, and should not have to be babied. I hope I am wrong, but it almost seems that this is exactly what they have done during AB\'s tenure here. It would explain why we have a back-up now that would appear to never be more than that in the NFL. AB feels that his position is safe, and feels no need to take it to the next level, which would explain why we have appeared to be treading water over the last four years. JMO, so Gumbo, et al, please don\'t jump me.
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