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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SloMotion No, the original post was Vacarro commenting on how Luck is described as having deceptive speed because he's white with the underlying tone that he wouldn't be described that way if he was black, similar to ...

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Old 10-26-2015, 04:22 PM   #1
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Re: Kenny Vacarro: People say Andrew Luck has deceptive speed because he’s white

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No, the original post was Vacarro commenting on how Luck is described as having deceptive speed because he's white with the underlying tone that he wouldn't be described that way if he was black, similar to how Isaiah Thomas (DET) once commented how if Larry Bird (BOS) were black, he'd be just another NBA player, and the buzzwords for black/white athletes used by ESPN analysts during the 2015 NFL Draft, #shrug. It is what it is.

When I see your stats and where you're from, I understand where we disagree. The black middle class is doing fine in Detroit, no better or worse then the white middle class, #shrug. I attended Detroit Public Schools, which are disproportionally black, and every kid had the same opportunity at an education and/or college that I did, and most probably more so, #shrug.

So, I look at it more from a personal responsibility point-of-view vs a national social issue point-of-view because I know plenty of people from disadvantaged backgrounds/poverty who through their own efforts did just fine and don't always buy into the narratives, #shrug.

I think it was kind of a stupid comment by Vacarro anyway and wonder would the media coverage been the same had Luck made similar comments about Vacarro. So what's Vacarro's point? Does he want to be known as "deceptive" because he feels it's a more flattering description or does he want Luck to be known as just another NFL player and not someone special?

I don't really care.
The black middle class on a national level is not doing fine whatsoever. I'm speaking to a collective. If I look only at what I see and experience then I don't get the bigger picture. 52% of African Americans are either in poverty or lower class. 38% comprise the middle class. 8% are upper class. I can ramble off more and more statistics with the sources to back up my premise, but my point is using your own achievements as the bar for others is unrealistic and unempathetic. It's not an opinion, it's what the numbers and sociological studies say.

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Re: Kenny Vacarro: People say Andrew Luck has deceptive speed because he’s white

Say WHAT!!!! “Not deceptive. Just because he’s white doesn’t mean he’s deceptive. UM
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Re: Kenny Vacarro: People say Andrew Luck has deceptive speed because he’s white

When I play for new teams they always put me on the fastest player. It never works. I'm deceptively slow.
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Re: Kenny Vacarro: People say Andrew Luck has deceptive speed because he’s white

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When I play for new teams they always put me on the fastest player. It never works. I'm deceptively slow.
I've often admitted to the racial bias of pressing white receivers out of the lack of respect of their speed in high school. I wasn't proved wrong, but I rarely felt outclassed in speed at that level anyway.
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