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ChrisXVI 10-26-2015 09:06 AM

PFF Article: TWO BIG REASONS YOU SHOULDN’T COUNT OUT THE SAINTS JUST YET
 
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The Saints became the latest team to heap misery on the season of the Indianapolis Colts this year, sending them to their fourth defeat of the year in a game in which two Saints players reinforced their excellent seasons to date.

Quarterback Drew Brees being back in the offense undoubtedly helps the Saints, but their offensive line dominated the Colts in the trenches this week, with Terron Armstead at left tackle having a practically flawless game. Armstead didn’t allow a single pressure of any kind in 51 pass-blocking snaps, and if anything was even better as a run blocker, crushing Colts defenders both on the line and at the second level.

Armstead has yet to allow a sack all season long, and has surrendered a total of just seven pressures in five games without being penalized once. He now sits third in the PFF tackle rankings, trailing only Joe Thomas and Tyron Smith, two of the blue-chip names at the position.

A third-round pick in 2013, Armstead saw game time towards the end of that season, and played in both of the Saints playoff games that year, grading well in the process. Last season saw a strong run-blocking performance while his pass protection was hit or miss, but this year he has taken a big step forward and has been one of the best players in the league at his position over the first stretch of the season.

Armstead and the rest of the Saints line were able to control their side of the line, but the Saints also won on the other side of the ball, with edge rusher Cameron Jordan in particular completely dominating. Jordan was a one-man wrecking crew, beasting his way through the entire Colts line in a performance that saw him line up line up in five different positions along the Saints defensive front and notch nine total pressures (two sacks, two hits and five hurries) as well as a pair of batted passes.

This was the highest-graded performance of the week for defensive linemen and puts Jordan out on his own atop the PFF rankings for edge defenders, some way clear of the chasing pack. To be clear, Jordan is grading better than players like Von Miller, Khalil Mack, Justin Houston and the rest of the marquee sack-artists.

Two players can’t make a team contenders, and if the Saints want to make anything of this season they need a lot of help elsewhere on the team, especially with neither Carolina nor Atlanta looking like dropping a run of games anytime soon, but we did see against the Colts that New Orleans has two of the league’s best-performing players of 2015.

Armstead and Jordan are playing lights out for the Saints, and were a huge reason for the victory in Indianapolis.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ints-just-yet/

dizzle88 10-26-2015 09:10 AM

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Armstead has been a stud for 2 and a half years now but Cam Jordan is really becoming that leader we need on defense and his play is really helping our DB's.

jeanpierre 10-26-2015 10:57 AM

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Cam needs to keep his arse out of the bars at night and handle his business on the field; and, that wasn't a great offensive line for the Colts...

NOLA54 10-26-2015 06:02 PM

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You really can't count them out or in at this point.

Danno 10-26-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 677322)
Cam needs to keep his arse out of the bars at night and handle his business on the field; and, that wasn't a great offensive line for the Colts...

Say what?

hagan714 10-26-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 677395)
Say what?

no butt slaps

hagan714 10-26-2015 06:44 PM

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while there is hope I still see room for plenty of improvement.

Some one need to bang Robs head into the wall over and over till he accepts a simple fact.

the worse defense he can call is zone with this bunch. the secondary is not touchy feely and sneaky. This is a secondary that has to be up in peoples faces.

NO MORE ZONE

Rell&Gold 10-26-2015 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 677401)
while there is hope I still see room for plenty of improvement.

Some one need to bang Robs head into the wall over and over till he accepts a simple fact.

the worse defense he can call is zone with this bunch. the secondary is not touchy feely and sneaky. This is a secondary that has to be up in peoples faces.

NO MORE ZONE

We look lost and it shows when in zone

Rell&Gold 10-26-2015 10:29 PM

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Has Joe Thomas or Tyron Smith given up a sack if so how is he behind one or the other

RaginCajun83 10-26-2015 10:36 PM

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1. Sean Payton
2. Drew Brees

WHODATINCA 10-26-2015 11:24 PM

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Given the way the FailClowns and Carolina are playing this season -- the playoffs for us, this year, will be nothing short of a miracle.

WhoDat!! :bng:

hagan714 10-27-2015 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 677437)
Given the way the FailClowns and Carolina are playing this season -- the playoffs for us, this year, will be nothing short of a miracle.

WhoDat!! :bng:

While no one has beat carolina they are not exactly playing like a power house. They are beatable.

The packer game will tell all. even with home field advantage I am doubting they will win

Falcons as we prove have an Achilles heel. Pass blocking. so they to are beatable. Actually I think the redskins will give them all they can handle. so we will soon see.

The main reason these two are were they are today is simple.

The football gods are on their side. But like any gods they are fickle.

burningmetal 10-27-2015 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 677435)
Has Joe Thomas or Tyron Smith given up a sack if so how is he behind one or the other

Probably because they are names PFF recognizes, and that is about 3/4 the battle with them. They hold no credibility with me. Even when they occasionally have rankings that flatter our own players, I really don't care.

burningmetal 10-27-2015 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 677437)
Given the way the FailClowns and Carolina are playing this season -- the playoffs for us, this year, will be nothing short of a miracle.

WhoDat!! :bng:

Not that I'm ready to predict playoffs for the Saints right now (I'm not) but it's not as if winning the division is the only way to get there. Carolina doesn't impress me much, but they probably are too far ahead to catch. Atlanta barely beat the Redskins, got pummeled by the Saints, and then barely beat the Titans in the last three weeks. I think they are about to hit a free fall.

But even that doesn't happen, the other wild card teams aren't doing much better than us right now. IF the Saints win 9 or 10, there is a legitimate chance of getting in, unlike last year. How legitimate are the chances the Saints can win that many? It depends on which personality of this team shows up, and who knows how that will turn out.

Rugby Saint II 10-27-2015 01:07 PM

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We could run the table..........I doubt it. But we could. We have a chance if the "Mr. Hyde" side of the team shows up.


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