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Danno 02-16-2005 09:35 AM

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Leroi Glover-
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The Cowboys are gearing up to switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4 as their base defense next season, and are shaping their free-agency and draft plans accordingly. That might mean the Cowboys would need to sign a nose tackle, such as the Jets' Jason Ferguson, in free agency.
-- Fort Worth Star-Telegram
Hmm, While Glover would be a decent strongside DE in a 3-4, he's not really ideal. Dallas may want to deal him. I know who might like to have him back.

Mark Fields-
With him being a free-agent, and Haslet admitting he wished he hadn't let him get away (along with Glover), I'd love to see us make a run at him.

saintswhodi 02-16-2005 09:40 AM

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True dat Danno. I would like to see both of them back here.

baronm 02-16-2005 09:45 AM

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interesting...

Tobias-Reiper 02-16-2005 10:57 AM

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.. as much as I would love to see Mark Fields iback as a Saint, he is not leaving Carolina, and money is not going to be an issue there... while Fields\' statement of \"if they throw 2 bucks my way, I\'ll stay\" is obviously a strecth, the way the Panthers org stood by him, not only morally but financially as welll, during his illness, means a lot ot him..

... btw, if Glover is indeed released, don\'t be too surprised to see him land in Carolina...


..and to answer the orginal question, yes, I would love to have them both back..

BlackandBlue 02-16-2005 12:34 PM

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Problem with Glover is, if the switch does take place, they would probably move him to end, due to the lack of talent they currently have at that position. DE is one of their top priorities this offseason.

WhoDat 02-16-2005 02:28 PM

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Fields ain\'t coming back. He was so happy with the way Carolina treated him while he fought cancer, he has publically said that he\'d play for anything, just so long as they ask him to come back. We\'ll see if he really means that, but I don\'t think he\'ll go anywhere.

Saint_LB 02-16-2005 03:20 PM

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Want them back? I think the more appropriate question would be why did we let them go to begin with!!

Danno 02-16-2005 03:41 PM

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Want them back? I think the more appropriate question would be why did we let them go to begin with!!
Cap casualties. Thanks Randy.

saintswhodi 02-16-2005 03:47 PM

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Cap casualties. Thanks Randy.
I\'d like to see a link to THAT. :yes:

Danno 02-16-2005 04:04 PM

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Cap casualties. Thanks Randy.
I\'d like to see a link to THAT. :yes:
Haslets 1st year, Randy Meuller was GM.
I doubt Haz was making the personnell decisions with Randy holding the throne.
Randy wasn\'t anyone\'s bean counter. He made some good decisions, and some bad ones, but mostly good ones.
I don\'t think he\'s as good a GM as most think, but I think he\'s better than what we have now.

saintswhodi 02-16-2005 04:12 PM

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I just asked for a link. So it\'s a theory? Okay, I can accept that. ;)

Danno 02-16-2005 04:29 PM

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I just asked for a link. So it\'s a theory? Okay, I can accept that. ;)
No its an assumption based on common sense.
I heard the interview on WWL with Haz. No link to a radio interview. But I certainly appreciate you trusting me. ;)
I think its a safe assumption that Randy was calling the shots when he was here. But then again, maybe he was Haz\'s puppet and thats why Benson fired him.

But if we\'re gonna play the theory games...
Maybe Venturi was scared our defense was going to actually improve if we kept him, so he made Tom make Randy cut him and steer the blame toward Haz and his current DC, thereby setting up the DC job for himself after the decision back-fired. Yeah, thats the ticket.
Maybe it was Brooks. Everything else that goes wrong with this team is blamed on him, so why not those two decisions?
I\'ll try to provide links to the rest of my comments. ;)



saintswhodi 02-16-2005 04:37 PM

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Okay, so an assumption and not a theory? I can live with either. Not that I don\'t trust you, cause I do, but I trust everyone on here to come up with their own theories, or assumptions, of the events on Airline Dr. No worries. I have a different theory, or assumption, whichever turn of phrase works better, but I don\'t mind hearing someone else\'s. ;)

Saint_LB 02-16-2005 04:57 PM

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I have my theory...and have stated it many times in the past. Not specifically regarding these two players, but the way the Saints do business in general.

BENSONOMICS

Everyone knows these guys were excelling at their positions, and were going to want to be paid accordingly. Now, how can Benson pay these guys and pay for a yacht, too? Who sacrifices? We, the fans do, in the form of less W\'s and more L\'s. Does Benson ever have to worry about the gate? Not yet.

Danno 02-16-2005 04:57 PM

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I have a different theory, or assumption, whichever turn of phrase works better, but I don\'t mind hearing someone else\'s. ;)
Lets hear it.

saintswhodi 02-16-2005 06:53 PM

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Sure Danno. Any decision we have made, I believe Haz has had major input. I posted an article on here that after Mueller was fired he demanded final say in personnel decisions in his extension negotiations. This does not sound like a guy who would just lay back and allow Mueller to call all the shots. It does sound like a guy who is unwilling to let Benson control his decisions though. I have also listened to Haz say the team needed to get bigger in the middle, and Glover was gone and in came Hand and Jackson. I also remember Haz saying the key in the secondary was to get faster, out went Sammy Knight. So in the theory I have drawn from these actions and Haz\' words, Mueller is not completely responsible for us losing these players. Haz is more responsible, but Benson not wanting to dig into that pocket is an even bigger culprit. There it is.

BlackandBlue 02-16-2005 07:01 PM

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I seem to remember some cap issues then. The way I remember it, we had the money to sign either Joe Johnson or Glover, but not both, and we set our sites on Johnson. Glover signed with the Cowboys early, then we withdrew our offer to Johnson.

saintswhodi 02-16-2005 07:07 PM

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Could very well be BNB.

FireVenturi 02-16-2005 07:13 PM

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Glover yes...depending on contract
Fields no

WhoDat 02-16-2005 10:01 PM

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No its an assumption based on common sense.
There\'s a word for those here at BnG Danno. It\'s starts with an A, ends with an A, and has gend in the middle. LOL!!

I know, it\'s sad man, when you can\'t even make an inference without being berated. But then, common sense doesn\'t seem to be all that abundant these days.

Anyway, back to the norm...

How DARE you suggest something without a link?!?! You CLEARLY have a Mueller Agen-a!! And you hate everyone else on the team. You\'ve criticized Brooks, Deuce, Horn, the entire defense, the o-line, the coaches, everyone!!! You hate the SAINTS dammit. :)

CheramieIII 02-16-2005 11:14 PM

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Nice call Danno, then we could let Howard go and pick up a couple of first rounders.

JKool 02-17-2005 01:09 AM

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I know, it\'s sad man, when you can\'t even make an inference without being berated. But then, common sense doesn\'t seem to be all that abundant these days.
I\'m inclined to agree.

saintswhodi 02-17-2005 09:05 AM

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Whoa, someone got berated here? I must have missed something. In this thread? I\'d like to see where.

WhoDat 02-17-2005 10:15 AM

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Case in point.... LOL.

I was making a general statement Whoodi. ;)

Now I even have to qualify my jokes. LOL. :)

saintswhodi 02-17-2005 10:21 AM

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I was wondering, cause I thought I was very cordial to Danno. :P

Danno 02-17-2005 11:03 AM

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be-rate, v. To scold harshly

Wow, I got scolded? I never felt a thing.

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JKool 02-17-2005 01:30 PM

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I took Who\'s comment to be general, and I felt it echoed something I had been feeling lately. My statement (and I think Who\'s too) was not directed at this thread in particular.


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