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halloween 65 11-01-2015 06:40 PM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 678492)
Well ... two starters are out. Not having Keenan in most of the game is hurting us right now. Hopefully we get Ellerbe back next week.
Some of those calls by the zebras were questionable though :rolleyes:.

I trust we will perform a LOT better against a bad Titans ball club.

I can't say enough what a difference having Ellerbe on the field vs. him being off the field has been. Our D actually should have cost us this game. We looked pitiful AGAIN on the D side. Spags got a taste of Payton today and our O played well (got to say that 52 points) but I think things are going to get alot tuffer when we come across teams with decent D's. The Giants exposed alot of our weaknesses on D today and I look for teams to ajust a little to pick this D apart.

jeanpierre 11-01-2015 06:58 PM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 678484)
Swann cant stay on the field and breaux doesn't know how to play the deep ball. Browner is absolutely trash...

We need Lewis back asap. Our DBs look like rookies... because they are and will get better but it needs to happen soon.

Lewis was back on the field, albeit it for only a couple of plays...

Let 'Westbank' get healed up, we've had alot of guys injured...

If Ellerbe can ever get that hip healed we'll be that much better...

burningmetal 11-01-2015 07:23 PM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 678528)
None of our other CB's played better than Browner, that was the frustrating thing.

Breaux completely misjudged the deep pass to Beckham and Byrd was supposed to be the deep man.

Later Breaux had basically tackled Beckham which negated a sack fumble.

Breaux gave up 3 TD's!! 2 on the exact same friggin play!

Eli Manning Broke the pocket, he threw an absolute duck into the end zone where atleast FIVE...YES FIVE Saints defenders were and the guy caught it completely untouched. The normally reliable Damian Swann made a complete hash mis-timing his jump.

I saw Cam Jordan jogging towards Eli Manning multiple times when Manning escaped the pocket.

It's a good job our offense was on point because our defense nearly embarrassed us.

The Swann play in the endzone WAS ridiculous. Absolutely one of the worst plays a defender has ever made (or not made) in my days of watching football.

Breaux was definitely bad today. The most frustrating thing about Browner is that he isn't even competitive. And I'm not talking about competitive as in attitude. He holds at the first sign of trouble. You don't even force the receiver and quarterback to make a play when you just pull on jerseys all day. He's terrible.

I couldn't believe how Breaux under ran that deep ball to Beckham. Eli ended up with some highly inflated stats with the number of botched plays in our secondary.

nola_swammi 11-01-2015 07:29 PM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face,

What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down. I know people might see the play Breaux as holding but I see it as legal especially compared to the one with a db riding the back of Snead. You don't have to listen to the announcer to tell right from wrong when you know the rules of this game

blackangold 11-01-2015 09:26 PM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 678554)
We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face,

What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down. I know people might see the play Breaux as holding but I see it as legal especially compared to the one with a db riding the back of Snead. You don't have to listen to the announcer to tell right from wrong when you know the rules of this game

The refs were calling the game 1 way no doubt, however Browner basically asks for it every play.

I feel the same way you do though, great game for our offense but the defense has me concerned more than ever. Since the 3rd qtr of the Colts game they have played like ****. 6 QTRs of bad football from the Defense. I am shocked that RR still has a job, his ass ought to be gone win or loss.

K Major 11-01-2015 09:39 PM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 678554)
We won and I am ecstatic but at the same time I am a little down cause our defense didn't show up. Beckham expose Beaux, Browner avg 2 game changer penalties a game, Swann will be lost at least 2 games, Payton won't stay out of RR face,

What I don't understand is how those refs can catch our db's on holding or pass interference but they couldn't see that Snead was pass interfered on a crucial 3rd down.

Nola, when Browner holds ... he HOLDS. The WR's shirt is out, pulled and its very obvious. He makes it so easy for the zebras to see.

His play has been very poor up to this point & has been beaten like a Pearl snare drum :band:. Gotta somehow limit his snaps.

I see BB as a liability out there.

WHODATINCA 11-01-2015 11:34 PM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 678457)
I believe he got penalised 4 times, 2 kept drives going

Breaux had a backbreaking penalty when he basically tackled odell Beckham during his route, whilst our D line smacked Eli Manning and recovered his fumble. All wiped out due to Breaux.

Loved Breaux last week. Hate him this week. He is learning. Also, he is the the most exciting cornerback we have seen around here in a very, very long time. Browner's roster spot, on the other hand, could be improved. But, I think this is a coaching tolerance issue. The Seahawks, as a matter of policy, didn't mind the penalties.

MatthewT 11-02-2015 06:29 AM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
Take it easy on Breaux, take a great hands receiver like Beckham who just happens to run like a 4.3 40, and mix in a Hall of Fame QB and there you have it. Breaux will learn, just wasn't his best day against an elite WR/QB combo. Now regarding Browner, what in the world... I do love Browner, but he really needs to stop with the penalties. He needs to realize too that he is a marked man and will not catch any breaks from officials.

Crusader 11-02-2015 06:49 AM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 678659)
Take it easy on Breaux, take a great hands receiver like Beckham who just happens to run like a 4.3 40, and mix in a Hall of Fame QB and there you have it. Breaux will learn, just wasn't his best day against an elite WR/QB combo. Now regarding Browner, what in the world... I do love Browner, but he really needs to stop with the penalties. He needs to realize too that he is a marked man and will not catch any breaks from officials.

Agreed. OBJ is a top 5 WR in the league. Nobody can play a great game against that kind of talent every week.

dizzle88 11-02-2015 07:22 AM

Re: Brandon Browner
 
No doubt OBJ is a top 5 receiver but the none of the TD's he scored had anything to do with talent, especially the last one, Both Breaux and Byrd just completely failed to judge a ball in the air.

The first two were simply a failure of not watching tape on the Giants tendencies in the red zone.


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