Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home?

ChrisXVI · 11-08-2015, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

This particular trend goes back long before Rob Ryan, you're right. But this isn't Dennis Allen's defense. Rob Ryan doesn't have a set defense. That's why the knock has always been on him that his defenses are too confusing for his own team and do the opposite for the opponent as a result. He's been in a lot of places and been fired every time.

Why do you suppose that is? Face it, he's terrible. Any influence Allen has only makes it that much worse. The guy had a terrible defense when he was with Denver and somehow got hired as the Raiders head coach because, well... They're the Raiders. The whole defensive staff is stale.

I appreciate what you had to say Burningmetal. That's exactly how I'm looking at the situation and probably not expressing myself rationally in the emotion of the moment. I agree 100% with your take.

burningmetal · 11-08-2015, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I appreciate what you had to say Burningmetal. That's exactly how I'm looking at the situation and probably not expressing myself rationally in the emotion of the moment. I agree 100% with your take.

I hear you, man. It is quite difficult to contain the frustration for me as well. Felt the schedule was set on a tee for us, and we blew it.

jeanpierre · 11-08-2015, 03:36 PM

Most of the fans that can afford the games now are fake like their date's boobs...

We have little to no film on them...

We have had no real pass rush since La'roi Glover, Joe Johnson, etc...

We have a two-headed monster leading the defense - way too confusing for the players...

Did I mention the fake boobs can't make noise like the fans of old could?!?

spkb25 · 11-08-2015, 03:36 PM

And because of RR

hagan714 · 11-08-2015, 03:39 PM

this defense has been in a state of disrepair ever since Williams left.

UK_WhoDat · 11-08-2015, 03:39 PM

More simply, why can't we play football for 4 quarters at home?

Danno · 11-08-2015, 03:41 PM

Gary Gibbs
Gregg Williams
Steve spagnuola
Rob Ryan

Next question

spkb25 · 11-08-2015, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Gary Gibbs
Gregg Williams
Steve spagnuola
Rob Ryan

Next question

you go back and look at our defensive rankings under GW and we weren't world beaters, but always like mid of the pack...we have more talent now..how is that possible

hagan714 · 11-08-2015, 03:48 PM

The massive turn over of veterans was a huge mistake. each year it has been a group of vets cut and a step backwards.

thank god we are almost out of any vets with time here left to cut.

So this is year 3 of the defense Rob has built.

How long do we wait for this to turn around?

So that vets to blame as bad eggs well is just about dry.

I am still hanging hope on the injury history.

spkb25 · 11-08-2015, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The massive turn over of veterans was a huge mistake. each year it has been a group of vets cut and a step backwards.

thank god we are almost out of any vets with time here left to cut.

So this is year 3 of the defense Rob has built.

How long do we wait for this to turn around? Not many vets left to blame as bad eggs.

yeah man, it is not even bad eggs anymore, it is keystone cops out there. how anyoe can seriously back rr is amazing to me

11-08-2015, 04:32 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home? Originally Posted by burningmetal This particular trend goes back long before Rob Ryan, you're right. But this isn't Dennis Allen's defense. Rob Ryan doesn't have a set defense. That's why the knock has always been on him that his defenses are too confusing for his own team and do the opposite for the opponent as a result. He's been in a lot of places and been fired every time. Why do you suppose that is? Face it, he's terrible. Any influence Allen has only makes it that much worse. The guy had a terrible defense when he was with Denver and somehow got hired as the Raiders head coach because, well... They're the Raiders. The whole defensive staff is stale. I appreciate what you had to say Burningmetal. That's exactly how I'm looking at the situation and probably not expressing myself rationally in the emotion of the moment. I agree 100% with your take. burningmetal likes this.

11-08-2015, 04:36 PM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I appreciate what you had to say Burningmetal. That's exactly how I'm looking at the situation and probably not expressing myself rationally in the emotion of the moment. I agree 100% with your take. I hear you, man. It is quite difficult to contain the frustration for me as well. Felt the schedule was set on a tee for us, and we blew it.

11-08-2015, 03:36 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home? Most of the fans that can afford the games now are fake like their date's boobs... We have little to no film on them... We have had no real pass rush since La'roi Glover, Joe Johnson, etc... We have a two-headed monster leading the defense - way too confusing for the players... Did I mention the fake boobs can't make noise like the fans of old could?!? K Major likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home? And because of RR

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home? Gary Gibbs Gregg Williams Steve spagnuola Rob Ryan Next question Halo, saintfan, RailBoss and 1 others like this.

11-08-2015, 03:44 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home? Originally Posted by Danno Gary Gibbs Gregg Williams Steve spagnuola Rob Ryan Next question you go back and look at our defensive rankings under GW and we weren't world beaters, but always like mid of the pack...we have more talent now..how is that possible

11-08-2015, 03:48 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home? The massive turn over of veterans was a huge mistake. each year it has been a group of vets cut and a step backwards. thank god we are almost out of any vets with time here left to cut. So this is year 3 of the defense Rob has built. How long do we wait for this to turn around? So that vets to blame as bad eggs well is just about dry. I am still hanging hope on the injury history. spkb25 likes this.

11-08-2015, 03:49 PM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Why Can't We Beat Rookie QB's at Home? Originally Posted by hagan714 The massive turn over of veterans was a huge mistake. each year it has been a group of vets cut and a step backwards. thank god we are almost out of any vets with time here left to cut. So this is year 3 of the defense Rob has built. How long do we wait for this to turn around? Not many vets left to blame as bad eggs. yeah man, it is not even bad eggs anymore, it is keystone cops out there. how anyoe can seriously back rr is amazing to me

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