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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Thirty3 Defense is young and now wounded. I keep Ryan. The game was lost by the TEAM. Special teams. Fumble....turns into points. Missed field goal....game goes into overtime. In scoring position....interception. Important drive...holding penalty by Cooks. Get ...
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
Originally Posted by Thirty3
You're right about it being a team loss. But, when your team has weak areas it's the responsibility of the organization to do what's necessary to correct them. Ignoring the problem only allows it to get worse or fester.![]()
If the offense was struggling and ranked at the bottom of the NFL (like our defense) I would be calling for Sean Payton to give up playcalling duties. When Rob struggled in his second year I was one of the first people to say he needs another year to prove himself based off how good he was his first year. We're now halfway through this year and I haven't seen much improvement. What's more concerning is that it doesn't appear to matter who's in the game, our defense just isn't playing well period. Blown coverages and wacky mistakes continue to happen. Don't get me wrong, the players share some of that blame but part of being a coach is knowing what your players are good at and what they're not and scheming around their talents. Rob doesn't appear to be doing that. I would be shocked if Rob is still the d coordinator coming out of the bye week. |
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
Yeah I agree, I like Ryan, but the numbers don't lie. Time to go
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
Originally Posted by Euphoria
Not just the last 2 seasons. I posted this on another thread:![]()
Check out RR's rankings as a DefCoor. In 11 seasons, his defenses have been ranked in the bottom half of the league 9 times. Four of those years, his defense was ranked in the bottom 4. Numbers don't lie. <br /> <br /> http://m.pfref.com/m?p=XXcoachesXXRyanRo0.htm&t=0<br /> <br /> Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk |
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
Originally Posted by 44Champs
That's kind of the dilemma I've talked about before.![]()
I think the fact that we will have to let RR go is academic. Consider it's already happened. Why keep him around? He gave us a booster after Spags, then last year we stunk again. In 2015, I would have cut ties and brought in another professional with experience. To heck with reputation and defensive "coaching carousel" talk. We're trying to WIN and not win a reputation contest. In fact, if we keep RR after this season and we finish 2015 below 20th ranked in the NFL on defense, either we let him go or it will look poorly on SP because who can take SP seriously? No hard feelings, but RR shouldn't be here. Tired of excuses, lost draft picks etc. We need to make sure coach is not part of the problem. RR has a poor poor coaching history, period! |
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
Originally Posted by Halo
thank you!
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
Originally Posted by Halo
The only problem could be if SP heads for the door himself then it's pretty academic that a whole new regime will be in place.
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
Rob's defense in Dallas needed healthy starters and constantly losing Claiborne and Lee to injuries hurt. We have injuries now. Thats the RR system, relying on starters.
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
the defense is train wreck. even healthy? got no clue. Boot a bunch of vets and bring in the young pups, what would you expect? yada yada yada
It is a freaking train wreck. The players on the field are the survivors running for their lives. Some make it to safety. Others end up going down in flames as this defense burns out of control on the field. As the fire rages you want me to start looking for a silver lining or who to to blame? Silver lining? ask me at bye week after the smoke clears from my eyes and my tears stop flowing. It is all a blur to me right now and it just to painful to open my eyes and watch. the horror of it all Blame is simple, it is the ![]() A Spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down The medicine go down-wown The medicine go down Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down In a most delightful way I am telling you this defense is just to ugly to watch without mentally losing it. |
"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins
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Re: Fire Rob Ryan
I have no idea why Payton goes for these DC's with bad track records
He had the chance to get Wade Phillips, Romeo Crennel or Jack Del Rio and he went with Rob Ryan. Coincidentally all 3 coaches named above are fielding very good defenses now. |
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