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spkb25 11-08-2015 04:29 PM

The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Here is a thread that should only be positive based. You simply state what Rob Ryan is good at.

For Instance:

Rob Ryan is really good at letting up long late fourth quarter drives that result in the other team taking the lead

Rell&Gold 11-08-2015 04:31 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Rob Ryan is good at not being good

ChrisXVI 11-08-2015 04:39 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Rob Ryan is good at being cuckolded by Dennis Allen and Sean Payton. I mean, they're really giving it to his defense while he sits back helpless.

Danno 11-08-2015 04:43 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
He's a DC thats failed everywhere he's been, has always blamed something else for his failures, and has had numerous fans come to his defense time and time again.

Enough, he sucks. Stop blaming others for Ryan's failure team after team after team.

burningmetal 11-08-2015 04:44 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
He's good at disguising coverage's. You can't even see those guys in the middle of the field, almost like they aren't there... Impressive.

Same thing with the pass rush. These guys are magicians.

spkb25 11-08-2015 04:45 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 679850)
Rob Ryan is good at being cuckolded by Dennis Allen and Sean Payton. I mean, they're really giving it to his defense while he sits back helpless.

welp, at least he's good at something

voodooido 11-08-2015 04:47 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Very good at tipping the scale over 400 pounds. That's something that no one on here could probably come close to.

Lord_Saint83 11-08-2015 04:48 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Cuckolded thats funny if i could like again i would, Rob's good at eating too, lol but on the serious side if people think dennis allen is gonna do better, ha

Rsanders24 11-08-2015 04:50 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
I'm ready for him to go....we can't get much worse but he can't make them catch the ball, he can't make them tackle, he can't make them not blow a coverage assignment....all this is on the players that are on the field.

At the end of the day we do not have good players on defense and until we get better with drafting and FA this is what we are stuck with no matter who the DC is.

neugey 11-08-2015 04:53 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Rob's got a quality beard; he's ready-made for no-shave November.

ChrisXVI 11-08-2015 04:53 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 679852)
He's a DC thats failed everywhere he's been, has always blamed something else for his failures, and has had numerous fans come to his defense time and time again.

Enough, he sucks. Stop blaming others for Ryan's failure team after team after team.

With the exception that his players love him everywhere he's been and he's fired prematurely. It sure would have been nice if he was given more than two years to transform our defense into a true 3-4, but alas he wasn't. But let's blame Rob.

Lord_Saint83 11-08-2015 04:55 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
you right bout that sanders, Rob's fat ass isn't on the field could it be the overall bad drafting of players that don't fit or signing busted FA players? Im starting to lean with that cuz as of late no matter who we had at DC the d sucked.

dam1953 11-08-2015 04:56 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Should have kicked RR to the curb and hired LeBeau (one of the best DCs ever) as DC/Asst Head Coach.

dizzle88 11-08-2015 04:57 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
The Titans first TD was a testament to what our defense is.

Undisciplined and idiotic.

Like Danno said, he's failed everywhere he's been and always put the blame on someone else.

He's been here 3 years and had 1 good season, which even then was only for the first half of the season, we unraveled as the season wore along.

2 consecutive bad seasons, he needs to go.

Lord_Saint83 11-08-2015 04:58 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Yea but Lebeau wouldn't want to keep paytons pals like all the other DC's had too so that was doomed from the start.

ChrisXVI 11-08-2015 04:59 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 679866)
The Titans first TD was a testament to what our defense is.

Undisciplined and idiotic.

Like Danno said, he's failed everywhere he's been and always put the blame on someone else.

He's been here 3 years and had 1 good season, which even then was only for the first half of the season, we unraveled as the season wore along.

2 consecutive bad seasons, he needs to go.

He's never put the blame on someone else. I don't know where you guys are getting that.

dizzle88 11-08-2015 05:01 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 679870)
He's never put the blame on someone else. I don't know where you guys are getting that.

He blamed the cowboys saying he was their scapegoat, which he said was the reason they fired him.

Danno 11-08-2015 05:01 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 679862)
With the exception that his players love him everywhere he's been and he's fired prematurely. It sure would have been nice if he was given more than two years to transform our defense into a true 3-4, but alas he wasn't. But let's blame Rob.

Blame the man in charge of this disastrous defense.

Hint: Its not Dennis Allen.

brees84 11-08-2015 05:04 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 679868)
Yea but Lebeau wouldn't want to keep paytons pals like all the other DC's had too so that was doomed from the start.

This is so true. Main reason we suck on defense.

spkb25 11-08-2015 05:06 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
RR and his great D stats:
Yards: 30,27, 3, 22, 27, 31, 22, 14, 19, 4, 31, 31
Points: 31,25,18,26, 24, 21, 13, 16, 24, 4, 28, 30

Dennis Allen's fault

Rsanders24 11-08-2015 05:07 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
First of all our defense will continue to suck as long as Payton gets the final say in position coaches. I also believe Payton has more input in the defense than we think.

burningmetal 11-08-2015 05:07 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 679862)
With the exception that his players love him everywhere he's been and he's fired prematurely. It sure would have been nice if he was given more than two years to transform our defense into a true 3-4, but alas he wasn't. But let's blame Rob.

I take it you were not being honest when you said you agreed with me earlier... That's cool. Everyone has an opinion. I'll stand by my remarks.

Rob has a long track record of mediocrity. These players aren't real good, but they look poorly coached when you see the breakdowns. There is too much shuffling and zero results.

ChrisXVI 11-08-2015 05:07 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 679872)
He blamed the cowboys saying he was their scapegoat, which he said was the reason they fired him.

Multiple Cowboys players made comments that he shouldn't have been fired and that they loved playing for him. Maybe he was right? It certainly looks like it's headed that way here. He'll be fired and our players will all to a man say he was a great coach who shouldn't have been fired. But hey, let our megalomaniac head coach keep firing DC's who aren't "Yes" men.

Rsanders24 11-08-2015 05:10 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 679876)
RR and his great D stats:
Yards: 30,27, 3, 22, 27, 31, 22, 14, 19, 4, 31, 31
Points: 31,25,18,26, 24, 21, 13, 16, 24, 4, 28, 30

Dennis Allen's fault

Wasn't Allen suppose to make the defense better? The secondary sure isnt any better.

spkb25 11-08-2015 05:10 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 679879)
Multiple Cowboys players made comments that he shouldn't have been fired and that they loved playing for him. Maybe he was right? It certainly looks like it's headed that way here. He'll be fired and our players will all to a man say he was a great coach who shouldn't have been fired. But hey, let our megalomaniac head coach keep firing DC's who aren't "Yes" men.

ohhh, the old players coach, yeah they always suck!

burningmetal 11-08-2015 05:11 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 679879)
Multiple Cowboys players made comments that he shouldn't have been fired and that they loved playing for him. Maybe he was right? It certainly looks like it's headed that way here. He'll be fired and our players will all to a man say he was a great coach who shouldn't have been fired. But hey, let our megalomaniac head coach keep firing DC's who aren't "Yes" men.

There's a difference between being a likable guy, and a good coach. Players like him because he has a somewhat juvenile personality. Players love that. Does that help them play better?

Lord_Saint83 11-08-2015 05:11 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Another agree sanders, i think payton does have is hand in too many cookie jars. Kinda like al davis calling down to the field tell the coach to throw the long ball when he felt it

spkb25 11-08-2015 05:11 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 679880)
Wasn't Allen suppose to make the defense better? The secondary sure isnt any better.

He was? When did he become the D-ccord?

ChrisXVI 11-08-2015 05:13 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 679885)
He was? When did he become the D-ccord?

Why was he brought in period?

spkb25 11-08-2015 05:16 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 679886)
Why was he brought in period?

I am not part of the decision making, but I'd assume in case RR floundered like a cuckold out of water

Rsanders24 11-08-2015 05:19 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 679885)
He was? When did he become the D-ccord?

Really? Are we going to act like he wasn't brought in to help? DC is a title that doesn't mean squat if you don't have full control.

His sole responsibility is to work with Rex Ryan which is why they are always side by side.

I guess he's like some of the people who work under me....relatives of someone...Payton felt bad because he didn't have a job....sounds like what you are saying...

spkb25 11-08-2015 05:22 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 679892)
Really? Are we going to act like he wasn't brought in to help? DC is a title that doesn't mean squat if you don't have full control.

His sole responsibility is to work with Rex Ryan which is why they are always side by side.

I guess he's like some of the people who work under me....relatives of someone...Payton felt bad because he didn't have a job....sounds like what you are saying...

i have no idea about any of the relative stuff, but he's not the d coord, and this d sucked with rr last season. i think alllen is here in case we have to fire fatty mid-season

Rsanders24 11-08-2015 05:26 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 679890)
I am not part of the decision making, but I'd assume in case RR floundered like a cuckold out of water

Well based on that assumption RR should be gone already. It was clear he was brought in to help this dysfunctional defense.

Fire him....but if all of the defensive coaches don't go then you will be saying the same thing when the next DC walks in.

burningmetal 11-08-2015 05:28 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 679892)
Really? Are we going to act like he wasn't brought in to help? DC is a title that doesn't mean squat if you don't have full control.

His sole responsibility is to work with Rex Ryan which is why they are always side by side.

I guess he's like some of the people who work under me....relatives of someone...Payton felt bad because he didn't have a job....sounds like what you are saying...

He was brought in to be the secondary coach, mainly, as well as assistant defensive coordinator, I guess. Dennis Allen can't run a defense. He proved that in Denver. Rob Ryan has had a long career to prove his lack of ability to make a significant difference. I think because Dennis Allen was once a head coach (a bad one) people automatically assume he's calling the shots over Rob. There is no evidence of that. He's an assistant, period.

Rob doesn't run the 3-4 or 4-3 exclusively. He runs whatever he feels like. He thinks he's going to fool someone that way, and if you look at what's happening, it isn't exactly working. Everyone keeps trying to say we're running a system Rob doesn't want to run. What system does he run? Do you really know? The guy outmarts himself and everybody wants to give him a pass. I don't get it.

spkb25 11-08-2015 05:29 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 679904)
He was brought in to be the secondary coach, mainly, as well as assistant defensive coordinator, I guess. Dennis Allen can't run a defense. He proved that in Denver. Rob Ryan has had a long career to prove his lack of ability to make a significant difference. I think because Dennis Allen was once a head coach (a bad one) people automatically assume he's calling the shots over Rob. There is no evidence of that. He's an assistant, period.

Rob doesn't run the 3-4 or 4-3 exclusively. He runs whatever he feels like. He thinks he's going to fool someone that way, and if you look at what's happening, it isn't exactly working. Everyone keeps trying to say we're running a system Rob doesn't want to run. What system deos he run? Do you really know? The guy outmarts himself and everybody wants to give him a pass. I don't get it.

I don't know if DA can run a D or not, but I think his D in Denver was better than what RR has fielded here

Rsanders24 11-08-2015 05:34 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 679904)
He was brought in to be the secondary coach, mainly, as well as assistant defensive coordinator, I guess. Dennis Allen can't run a defense. He proved that in Denver. Rob Ryan has had a long career to prove his lack of ability to make a significant difference. I think because Dennis Allen was once a head coach (a bad one) people automatically assume he's calling the shots over Rob. There is no evidence of that. He's an assistant, period.

Rob doesn't run the 3-4 or 4-3 exclusively. He runs whatever he feels like. He thinks he's going to fool someone that way, and if you look at what's happening, it isn't exactly working. Everyone keeps trying to say we're running a system Rob doesn't want to run. What system deos he run? Do you really know? The guy outmarts himself and everybody wants to give him a pass. I don't get it.

Thank you! He was brough in to help Ryan and the defense but it's not working. So what is the fix? I have no problem with firing Ryan but stop giving everyone else a damn pass. Since Payton brought in his friends the defense has been bottom of the league and we haven't turned one drafted player into a stud.

burningmetal 11-08-2015 05:34 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 679905)
I don't know if DA can run a D or not, but I think his D in Denver was better than what RR has fielded here

It was pretty much exactly the same. They beat the Cowboys in a game that year by a very similar score as the Saints vs. Giants game. It took 50 something points to win. And that whole year they were giving up 30 plus to everyone. And he had both Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil up front.

Lord_Saint83 11-08-2015 05:36 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
^^^^ i remember that his d wasnt good either and with better players

spkb25 11-08-2015 06:13 PM

Re: The positive Rob Ryan thread
 
20 in yards, 24 in points.

they hadd teebag as their qb. actually he did a great job that season considering... they're offense was 23 and 25... yikes

they did not play the cowboys that season. clearly you're both confused


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