The blame SP not RR thread
 

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I think they are both to blame.

However SP is on his 3rd DC in 4 years and his 4th during his tenure. Every year is becoming the same, we fall behind, we even it out and then for the rest of the season we'll succumb to mediocrity.

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well I am not sure you can really count spags since sp wasnt here, and gw chose to leave.

I blame sp for hiring this turd, we should have hired romeo or wade. That i do blame sp for, but other than that this defense is hott garabge and there is no defense for rr

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Let's face it, even if we fire Rob Ryan we're not stumbling on some magical formula for our defense as long as Payton is coach and he forces his assistant coaches on our DC.

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idk, GW did better than the invisible defense rr invented

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We were without Kikhaha and Ellerbe.

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We were without Kikaha and Ellerbe and it hurt us this game...

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There is more than enough blame to go around.

Why choose?

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He also had better players and a group that was seasoned.

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You had porter and greer at cb, solid you had will smith and charles grant and hargrove, solid then you had vilma, soild then you had harper and sharper, once again solid. They gave up a good bit of yards but the were good at rushing the passer and creating turnovers and scoring themselves on some those turnovers. This team we dont have no where near that kind of players to pull that out.

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They forced turnovers the first year, but never again after that. I'm not about to defend ol' Gregg.

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Now that is true but i think instead of ranking 20 something when they won the superbowl the were like top 5 but with out the turnovers though. Yea Gregg was a chickensh*t too

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yards: 25,4,24
points: 20,7,13

better than rr

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rams:
yards 17, 6
points: 16, 5

better than rr

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Are you really trying to compare the Rams defensive roster to ours? LMAO!!!!!

I thought you were serious for a second...man

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oh, im just telling you the results, and if you at the history of GW d they have always been pretty good. rr, not so much

his results with saints 09-11 were better

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It's scheme. I blame RR but Payton is partially to blame because he is the head coach and should override RR when **** hits the fan. I used to think it was personnel especially in the backfield. Now Jenkins is doing just fine with the Eagles and while nobody was paying attention PRob graded out as the number 3 DB behind Patrick Peterson and Revis.

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While that is true....we didn't have a bunch of low draft picks and UDFAs playing and now GW has a bunch of 1st Rd picks to play with on defense

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The Saints can't create pressure. They can't cover a TE. One starting CB leads the league in penalties. Someone has to answer for it. Fire Ryan and cut Browner. The season will not go any worse.

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This game should not have been close, even with these two guys out.
No excuse for this pitiful performance against a rookie QB, at home, three game win streak, 1st week head coach, against team on the road with a six game losing streak.

10 touchdown passes allowed in 2 weeks against 2 teams with losing records???????????????

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Well that giants team just won in TB and played better defense.

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PRob is doing that good? Is he covering other than wideout? Look at who he's played though.

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I believe he plays nickel corner.

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Well either way I don't expect anything different until a complete turnover occurs. I will say this though...the scheme is only as good as the players that are in it and at the end of the day they have to make plays when the opportunity presents itself...the coach can't do it for you. Right now I don't believe we have the talent period. I think they are just trying to field the best 11 healthy players.

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This hurt us more than anything

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We weren't suppose to lose this game period

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We score TDs on our 1st 3 possessions. The next time we scored was a TD with 5:57 left in the 4th Qtr.

Dick Lebeau is a Man as a DC. He adjusted & shut our offense down in our house as that awful Tennessee offense caught up against our awful defense.

Payton didn't make the adjustments necessary and/or keep the foot on the gas to put that Tennesse team away today.

You could also blame Payton for not having his team ready to play today. Yep, we were up 14-3 at one point, but with this defense? This team was not ready to play 60 minutes, much less 60 plus. They thought once we got up 14-3 that is was over, including the coaches.

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Vikings coach, Mike Zimmer, blamed Greg Williams today for Bridgewater's concussion. He said there is history there with GW (referring to bounty gate). So I blame everything on Greg Williams.

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Sorry but you cant blame Payton for having to play a crappy hand w the crappy cards he's been dealt. Loomis is the one that has to go. He has failed in the drafts, and he's tried to build a team w free agents. On top of that, look at all the pathetic financial decisions he has made. In Loomis we no longer trust.

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What are the crappy cards he was dealt?

So do you think he should fire the scouting department head who was responsible for all of those failed drafts? If he fired the head of pro-personnel decisions and a bunch of scouts responsible, would you feel differently?

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Check out RR's rankings as a DefCoor. In 11 seasons, his defenses have been ranked in the bottom half of the league 9 times. Four of those years, his defense was ranked in the bottom 4. This guys is a LOSER. Numbers don't lie.

http://m.pfref.com/m?p=XXcoachesXXRyanRo0.htm&t=0

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You gotta be kidding me. Look at all the blunders loomis has made. The center from chicago that quit. Signing Galette to a huge contract that he didnt deserve - no longer w us. Signing Graham to a huge contract - no longer w us. Letting Sproles go. Drafting Brandin Cooks as a #1 receiver. Not including this last draft, only 4 players from theblast 3 drafts are still in our team. On top of that, look at all of the dead cap money that counts against us because of his horrible decisions. I'll just asume that your were joking when you asked me that.

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