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JKool 02-17-2005 02:31 PM

Simple better than complex!!
 
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The excessive plays and the mind-boggling number of options of those plays, along with the wordy terminology, Haslett said, contributed to the mental errors and pre-snap penalties that have plagued the offense.
I see, all pre-snap penalties like jumping offside, misalignments, illegal motions, etc. are the QB\'s fault. Man, why didn\'t I see that.

Regardless of the intelligence of our players, it is the coaches\' job to design an attack that is fit to the players. If your players are dumb, you need to do things to disguise offensive and defensive plans that do not rely on players making adjustments on their own. This can be done. In fact, it can be done without making the plays more obvious by eliminating needless verbage, extra check downs, etc, and merely better (more accurate) playcalling.

This is a sign of a problem with our COACHING not our players.

Simplification in itself is not bad, it is the kind of simplification that matters.

baronm 02-17-2005 02:39 PM

Simple better than complex!!
 
problem with just using athletism is when you get to this level..everyone is more or less on par..it\'s the intelligence and work ethic that seperate.

true, you must fit your scheme to your players-or your players to your scheme.

If the players cannott grasp the offense-then you dumb dwn the offense till you can find the players that can play in the offense..problem is: if they can\'t grasp the offense-or don\'t take the time to study the offense (which is it?) then how are they supposed to be able to pick up the oppenents defenseive schemes in a matter of seconds (which I think is more the problem.)


JKool 02-17-2005 03:38 PM

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problem with just using athletism is when you get to this level..everyone is more or less on par..it\'s the intelligence and work ethic that seperate.
and play calling and game planning.

FireVenturi 02-17-2005 06:12 PM

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see to me this says-our quarterback is not smart enough to grasp the playbook so we have to dumb it down..

I hate hearing the \"simplify\" excuse...
So since we simplified the D also, is our D also dumb?

saintswhodi 02-17-2005 06:18 PM

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Yes Venturi it does. And I don\'t mean dumb as in not talented. I mean dumb as in they need defined roles on this team on defense. We don\'t have the level of intelligence say that the Pats have that we can allow our players to read plays and make the play on their own. We don\'t have that one dominating Ray Lewis or Urlacher or Vrabel or Bruschi that can carry a D based on their smarts. The scheme needs to be simplified for the talent we have, and to be able to use that talent to fruition. Again, they are good talent wise, but intelligence wise I don\'t think they are up there.

[Edited on 18/2/2005 by saintswhodi]

baronm 02-17-2005 06:29 PM

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isn\'t game planning part of work ethic?

as for the d-I don\'t know some of those guys seem to be playing over their heads..and some of them seem to be mailing it in.

I think that grant and smith are cornerstones to that line..and our cornerbacks have gotten better..but our linebackers-they just plain suck as a unit..now watson and brockwoldt seem to be pretty decent-though brockwoldt to me is a backup type...but the rest of those guys are pretty awful.


JKool 02-17-2005 07:23 PM

Simple better than complex!!
 
An interesting question Gator. I hope that time will tell, rather than history.

FireVenturi 02-17-2005 08:36 PM

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Yes Venturi it does. And I don\'t mean dumb as in not talented. I mean dumb as in they need defined roles on this team on defense. We don\'t have the level of intelligence say that the Pats have that we can allow our players to read plays and make the play on their own. We don\'t have that one dominating Ray Lewis or Urlacher or Vrabel or Bruschi that can carry a D based on their smarts. The scheme needs to be simplified for the talent we have, and to be able to use that talent to fruition. Again, they are good talent wise, but intelligence wise I don\'t think they are up there.

[Edited on 18/2/2005 by saintswhodi]
Thanks for provin\' my point

saintswhodi 02-17-2005 09:02 PM

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Thanks for provin\' my point

You had a point? ;) J/K. But I don\'t know what your point could have been except maybe there are dumb players on this team besides AB, then yes I agree with that. He is one though.

ScottyRo 02-17-2005 09:10 PM

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I just hope this \"oversimplication\" pitch isn\'t 2005\'s excuse like 2002\'s \"defensive overhaul\" and 2003\'s \"let\'em gell\" threoy.
Yeah, it\'s another yearly pitch. Haslet has got to be right one of these years, doesn\'t he?


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