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TayTay 02-17-2005 09:49 PM

Best back in NFL
 
I recently got in a fight wih a buddy as to whether or not deuce is a top 3 running back in the NFL. This of course is based on talent alone, and not on the system the back is in. Of course he had an of year, but the season was plauged by injuries. Anyway, here's how I rank the league's top backs. Tell me what you think.
1. L. Tomlinson
2. Deuce
3. Shaun Alexander
4. E. James
5. Ahman Green
6. Clinton Portis
7. Preist Holmes
8. Curtis Martin
9. Jamal Lewis
10. Fred Taylor

CHACHING 02-17-2005 09:56 PM

Best back in NFL
 
I\'d put Deuce at 5 or 6........But I like your list.......

Saint_LB 02-17-2005 10:17 PM

Best back in NFL
 
I\'d put Michael Vick around #2. :D

Danno 02-18-2005 06:39 AM

Best back in NFL
 
If Deuce comes in fat and out of shape again I\'d be tempted to put Stecker above him. But I\'ve already gone there and too many can\'t handle the truth and it leads to hostilities.
Here\'s my list.
1. L.Tomlinson
2. C. Portis
3. A. Green
4 S. Alexander
5. J. Lewis
6. P. Holmes
7. C. Dillon
8. F. Taylor
9. W. McGahee
10. S. Jackson
11. Rudi Johnson
12. E. James
13. D. McAllister
14. C. Martin
15. T. Barber

CHACHING 02-18-2005 07:05 AM

Best back in NFL
 
Come on Danno..13......that\'s just plain ridiculous...
Deuce will silence a lot of critics this year if:
a. Karney leads the way
b. He comes into camp at around 220
c. Haz stays in his azz. :cool:

Danno 02-18-2005 07:16 AM

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Quote:

Come on Danno..13......that\'s just plain ridiculous...
Deuce will silence a lot of critics this year if:
a. Karney leads the way
b. He comes into camp at around 220
c. Haz stays in his azz. :cool:
Why is it ridiculous. I based my results on 2004.
Look at your IF list.
I don\'t see other stud RB\'s with a qualifying IF list.

Yea, IF Deuce comes into camp in shape, no question he\'s a top 5 RB. I\'ve always said that.
But right now he\'s fat and out of shape. But if you think about it, its flattering to be a top 15 back when you\'re fat, outta shape, and slower than your TE\'s. ;)

If Sullivan comes into camp in great shape, and Haz stays on his azz, does that mean he\'ll be a top 5 DT?

I\'ll revise my list drastically if Deuce comes into camp at a muscular 225 lbs. But until then, he\'s 13th on my list. And I don\'t think there\'s anything ridiculous about it. What I find ridiculous are the excuses made for Deuce.
But thats our Saints. EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES, thats all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints.

[Edited on 18/2/2005 by Danno]

4DSaints 02-18-2005 07:59 AM

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Portis is good but he\'s not that good! Same goes for J. Lewis - we are foced to watch both of them every weekend up here and i wouldn\'t put either in the top 5. I\'ll be curious to see if Lewis walks a little funny when he gets back from the slammer... Nobody has Holmes in the top5 - are you guys nuts??

1. L.Tomlinson
2. P. Holmes
3. C. Dillon
4 S. Alexander
5. D. McAllister
6. A. Green
7. E. James
8. C. Martin
9. W. McGahee
10. F. Taylor

My prediction is that Deuce and McGahee will end up being the best two backs in football over the next couple of years.

Gee, I miss football :(

WhoDat 02-18-2005 08:29 AM

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If you\'re talking talent alone - pure ability - I say that Deuce is top 5, but has dropped slightly b/c he gained weight and paid for it in break-away speed (b/c his coaches told him to do so).

1. L.Tomlinson
2. C. Portis
3. S. Alexander
4. J. Lewis
5. Deuce
6. P. Holmes
7. A. Green
8. C. Dillon
9. W. McGahee
10. E. James

In terms of production, Deuce should be lower, but keeping in mind his numbers over the last 3 years (DANNO) I don\'t think he\'s out of the top ten. In terms of value, he\'s right around 5th, IMO, and if he can stay healthy (big if), he\'s definitely a top 5 \"prospect.\"

dberce1 02-18-2005 08:36 AM

Best back in NFL
 
Quote:

I recently got in a fight wih a buddy as to whether or not deuce is a top 3 running back in the NFL. This of course is based on talent alone, and not on the system the back is in. Of course he had an of year, but the season was plauged by injuries. Anyway, here\'s how I rank the league\'s top backs. Tell me what you think.
1. L. Tomlinson
2. Deuce
3. Shaun Alexander
4. E. James
5. Ahman Green
6. Clinton Portis
7. Preist Holmes
8. Curtis Martin
9. Jamal Lewis
10. Fred Taylor
1. Tomlinson
2. Ahman Green
3. Edge
4. Curtis Martin
5. Deuce McAllister

GumboBC 02-18-2005 08:56 AM

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Quote:

If you\'re talking talent alone - pure ability - I say that Deuce is top 5, but has dropped slightly b/c he gained weight and paid for it in break-away speed (b/c his coaches told him to do so).
WhoDat -

Haslett did not tell Deuce to gain weight. Haz told Deuce he wants him to lose 2lbs. every year that he\'s in the NFL. I heard Haslett say it with my own 2 ears. And it was also in an article I posted here last year.

Where did you ever get Haslett wanted Deuce to gain weight?

There\'s so many great runningbacks in the NFL right now. Deuce is in the top 10, IMO. With the potential to be top 5 if he stays healthy.

Danno 02-18-2005 09:14 AM

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Quote:

If you\'re talking talent alone - pure ability - I say that Deuce is top 5, but has dropped slightly b/c he gained weight and paid for it in break-away speed
He\'s lost his 1st gear and his top gear because of that weight gain. Those were his bread and butter his first few years. Until he gets those back I have him around 13.
Quote:

In terms of production, Deuce should be lower, but keeping in mind his numbers over the last 3 years (DANNO) I don\'t think he\'s out of the top ten. ...
Are we rating them on what they\'ve done over the last 3 years? I didn\'t read it that way. In that case he\'s around 5.

Quote:

if he can stay healthy (big if), he\'s definitely a top 5 \"prospect.\"
Isn\'t that kinda exactly what I said?
There\'s that big IF again. Hmmm, we sure are qualifying Deuce posts with a lot of IF\'s aren\'t we. ;)
Insert \"IF\" analogy here.

spkb25 02-18-2005 11:18 AM

Best back in NFL
 
tomlinson
alexander
lewis
james
deuce/green
holmes
martin maybe only for another year
dillon
taylor

FireVenturi 02-18-2005 05:27 PM

Best back in NFL
 
Tomlinson
Holmes
Alexander
Lewis
Green
Dillon
Deuce
Portis
James
Taylor

duece4pres 02-24-2005 09:54 PM

Best back in NFL
 
Alexander
L. T.
Green
Deuce
Portis

LKelley67 02-24-2005 10:30 PM

Best back in NFL
 
if i could have one for a fantasy player next year only i would pick in order-
tomlinson
holmes
alexander
lewis
dillon
green
portis
deuce
james
taylor
martin

building a team to have rb for a while-
tomlinson
alexander
portis
lewis
deuce
green

JKool 02-25-2005 10:12 AM

Best back in NFL
 
Since I have to watch Green a lot, I may under-rate him a little bit, but I have to say that I firmly believe he is not a top five back.

Here\'s mine:
1. L.Tomlinson
2. P. Holmes
3. S. Alexander
4. C. Portis
5. C. Dillon
6. Duece
7. C. Portis
8. A Green
9. E. James
10. J. Lewis

GumboBC 02-25-2005 10:19 AM

Best back in NFL
 
1. Jamal Lewis
2. Tomlinson
3. Ahman Green
4. S. Alexander
5. Decue
6. Priest Holmes
7. Portis
8. Dillion
9. Edge James
10. Curtis Martin

4saintspirit 02-25-2005 10:35 AM

Best back in NFL
 
The list is pretty subjective -- are we to list based on talent or production last year -- or production over the course of their career -- or importance to the team. I would have a different list for each -- But without listing - I cannot see how any list would not have Priest Holmes in the top 5 (if not number 2). I also agree with whomever said to put Vick in at number 2


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