Best back in NFL

TayTay · 02-17-2005, 10:49 PM

I recently got in a fight wih a buddy as to whether or not deuce is a top 3 running back in the NFL. This of course is based on talent alone, and not on the system the back is in. Of course he had an of year, but the season was plauged by injuries. Anyway, here's how I rank the league's top backs. Tell me what you think.
1. L. Tomlinson
2. Deuce
3. Shaun Alexander
4. E. James
5. Ahman Green
6. Clinton Portis
7. Preist Holmes
8. Curtis Martin
9. Jamal Lewis
10. Fred Taylor

CHACHING · 02-17-2005, 10:56 PM

I\'d put Deuce at 5 or 6........But I like your list.......

Saint_LB · 02-17-2005, 11:17 PM

I\'d put Michael Vick around #2.

Danno · 02-18-2005, 07:39 AM

If Deuce comes in fat and out of shape again I\'d be tempted to put Stecker above him. But I\'ve already gone there and too many can\'t handle the truth and it leads to hostilities.
Here\'s my list.
1. L.Tomlinson
2. C. Portis
3. A. Green
4 S. Alexander
5. J. Lewis
6. P. Holmes
7. C. Dillon
8. F. Taylor
9. W. McGahee
10. S. Jackson
11. Rudi Johnson
12. E. James
13. D. McAllister
14. C. Martin
15. T. Barber

CHACHING · 02-18-2005, 08:05 AM

Come on Danno..13......that\'s just plain ridiculous...
Deuce will silence a lot of critics this year if:
a. Karney leads the way
b. He comes into camp at around 220
c. Haz stays in his azz.

Danno · 02-18-2005, 08:16 AM

Come on Danno..13......that\'s just plain ridiculous...
Deuce will silence a lot of critics this year if:
a. Karney leads the way
b. He comes into camp at around 220
c. Haz stays in his azz.

Why is it ridiculous. I based my results on 2004.
Look at your IF list.
I don\'t see other stud RB\'s with a qualifying IF list.

Yea, IF Deuce comes into camp in shape, no question he\'s a top 5 RB. I\'ve always said that.
But right now he\'s fat and out of shape. But if you think about it, its flattering to be a top 15 back when you\'re fat, outta shape, and slower than your TE\'s.

If Sullivan comes into camp in great shape, and Haz stays on his azz, does that mean he\'ll be a top 5 DT?

I\'ll revise my list drastically if Deuce comes into camp at a muscular 225 lbs. But until then, he\'s 13th on my list. And I don\'t think there\'s anything ridiculous about it. What I find ridiculous are the excuses made for Deuce.
But thats our Saints. EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES, thats all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints.

[Edited on 18/2/2005 by Danno]

4DSaints · 02-18-2005, 08:59 AM

Portis is good but he\'s not that good! Same goes for J. Lewis - we are foced to watch both of them every weekend up here and i wouldn\'t put either in the top 5. I\'ll be curious to see if Lewis walks a little funny when he gets back from the slammer... Nobody has Holmes in the top5 - are you guys nuts??

1. L.Tomlinson
2. P. Holmes
3. C. Dillon
4 S. Alexander
5. D. McAllister
6. A. Green
7. E. James
8. C. Martin
9. W. McGahee
10. F. Taylor

My prediction is that Deuce and McGahee will end up being the best two backs in football over the next couple of years.

Gee, I miss football

WhoDat · 02-18-2005, 09:29 AM

If you\'re talking talent alone - pure ability - I say that Deuce is top 5, but has dropped slightly b/c he gained weight and paid for it in break-away speed (b/c his coaches told him to do so).

1. L.Tomlinson
2. C. Portis
3. S. Alexander
4. J. Lewis
5. Deuce
6. P. Holmes
7. A. Green
8. C. Dillon
9. W. McGahee
10. E. James

In terms of production, Deuce should be lower, but keeping in mind his numbers over the last 3 years (DANNO) I don\'t think he\'s out of the top ten. In terms of value, he\'s right around 5th, IMO, and if he can stay healthy (big if), he\'s definitely a top 5 \"prospect.\"

dberce1 · 02-18-2005, 09:36 AM

I recently got in a fight wih a buddy as to whether or not deuce is a top 3 running back in the NFL. This of course is based on talent alone, and not on the system the back is in. Of course he had an of year, but the season was plauged by injuries. Anyway, here\'s how I rank the league\'s top backs. Tell me what you think.
1. L. Tomlinson
2. Deuce
3. Shaun Alexander
4. E. James
5. Ahman Green
6. Clinton Portis
7. Preist Holmes
8. Curtis Martin
9. Jamal Lewis
10. Fred Taylor

1. Tomlinson
2. Ahman Green
3. Edge
4. Curtis Martin
5. Deuce McAllister

GumboBC · 02-18-2005, 09:56 AM

If you\'re talking talent alone - pure ability - I say that Deuce is top 5, but has dropped slightly b/c he gained weight and paid for it in break-away speed (b/c his coaches told him to do so).

WhoDat -

Haslett did not tell Deuce to gain weight. Haz told Deuce he wants him to lose 2lbs. every year that he\'s in the NFL. I heard Haslett say it with my own 2 ears. And it was also in an article I posted here last year.

Where did you ever get Haslett wanted Deuce to gain weight?

There\'s so many great runningbacks in the NFL right now. Deuce is in the top 10, IMO. With the potential to be top 5 if he stays healthy.

02-17-2005, 10:49 PM	#1
TayTay 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 118	Best back in NFL I recently got in a fight wih a buddy as to whether or not deuce is a top 3 running back in the NFL. This of course is based on talent alone, and not on the system the back is in. Of course he had an of year, but the season was plauged by injuries. Anyway, here's how I rank the league's top backs. Tell me what you think. 1. L. Tomlinson 2. Deuce 3. Shaun Alexander 4. E. James 5. Ahman Green 6. Clinton Portis 7. Preist Holmes 8. Curtis Martin 9. Jamal Lewis 10. Fred Taylor
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02-17-2005, 11:17 PM	#3
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Best back in NFL I\'d put Michael Vick around #2.
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02-18-2005, 07:39 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Best back in NFL If Deuce comes in fat and out of shape again I\'d be tempted to put Stecker above him. But I\'ve already gone there and too many can\'t handle the truth and it leads to hostilities. Here\'s my list. 1. L.Tomlinson 2. C. Portis 3. A. Green 4 S. Alexander 5. J. Lewis 6. P. Holmes 7. C. Dillon 8. F. Taylor 9. W. McGahee 10. S. Jackson 11. Rudi Johnson 12. E. James 13. D. McAllister 14. C. Martin 15. T. Barber

02-18-2005, 08:05 AM	#5
CHACHING 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Golden State Posts: 830	Best back in NFL Come on Danno..13......that\'s just plain ridiculous... Deuce will silence a lot of critics this year if: a. Karney leads the way b. He comes into camp at around 220 c. Haz stays in his azz.

02-18-2005, 08:16 AM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Best back in NFL Come on Danno..13......that\'s just plain ridiculous... Deuce will silence a lot of critics this year if: a. Karney leads the way b. He comes into camp at around 220 c. Haz stays in his azz. Why is it ridiculous. I based my results on 2004. Look at your IF list. I don\'t see other stud RB\'s with a qualifying IF list. Yea, IF Deuce comes into camp in shape, no question he\'s a top 5 RB. I\'ve always said that. But right now he\'s fat and out of shape. But if you think about it, its flattering to be a top 15 back when you\'re fat, outta shape, and slower than your TE\'s. If Sullivan comes into camp in great shape, and Haz stays on his azz, does that mean he\'ll be a top 5 DT? I\'ll revise my list drastically if Deuce comes into camp at a muscular 225 lbs. But until then, he\'s 13th on my list. And I don\'t think there\'s anything ridiculous about it. What I find ridiculous are the excuses made for Deuce. But thats our Saints. EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES, thats all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints. [Edited on 18/2/2005 by Danno]

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02-17-2005, 10:56 PM	#2
CHACHING 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Golden State Posts: 830	Best back in NFL I\'d put Deuce at 5 or 6........But I like your list.......

02-18-2005, 08:59 AM	#7
4DSaints Registered Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 35	Best back in NFL Portis is good but he\'s not that good! Same goes for J. Lewis - we are foced to watch both of them every weekend up here and i wouldn\'t put either in the top 5. I\'ll be curious to see if Lewis walks a little funny when he gets back from the slammer... Nobody has Holmes in the top5 - are you guys nuts?? 1. L.Tomlinson 2. P. Holmes 3. C. Dillon 4 S. Alexander 5. D. McAllister 6. A. Green 7. E. James 8. C. Martin 9. W. McGahee 10. F. Taylor My prediction is that Deuce and McGahee will end up being the best two backs in football over the next couple of years. Gee, I miss football
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02-18-2005, 09:29 AM	#8
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Best back in NFL If you\'re talking talent alone - pure ability - I say that Deuce is top 5, but has dropped slightly b/c he gained weight and paid for it in break-away speed (b/c his coaches told him to do so). 1. L.Tomlinson 2. C. Portis 3. S. Alexander 4. J. Lewis 5. Deuce 6. P. Holmes 7. A. Green 8. C. Dillon 9. W. McGahee 10. E. James In terms of production, Deuce should be lower, but keeping in mind his numbers over the last 3 years (DANNO) I don\'t think he\'s out of the top ten. In terms of value, he\'s right around 5th, IMO, and if he can stay healthy (big if), he\'s definitely a top 5 \"prospect.\"
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

02-18-2005, 09:36 AM	#9
dberce1 Chuck Liddells Right Hand Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 1,227	Best back in NFL I recently got in a fight wih a buddy as to whether or not deuce is a top 3 running back in the NFL. This of course is based on talent alone, and not on the system the back is in. Of course he had an of year, but the season was plauged by injuries. Anyway, here\'s how I rank the league\'s top backs. Tell me what you think. 1. L. Tomlinson 2. Deuce 3. Shaun Alexander 4. E. James 5. Ahman Green 6. Clinton Portis 7. Preist Holmes 8. Curtis Martin 9. Jamal Lewis 10. Fred Taylor 1. Tomlinson 2. Ahman Green 3. Edge 4. Curtis Martin 5. Deuce McAllister

02-18-2005, 09:56 AM	#10
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Best back in NFL If you\'re talking talent alone - pure ability - I say that Deuce is top 5, but has dropped slightly b/c he gained weight and paid for it in break-away speed (b/c his coaches told him to do so). WhoDat - Haslett did not tell Deuce to gain weight. Haz told Deuce he wants him to lose 2lbs. every year that he\'s in the NFL. I heard Haslett say it with my own 2 ears. And it was also in an article I posted here last year. Where did you ever get Haslett wanted Deuce to gain weight? There\'s so many great runningbacks in the NFL right now. Deuce is in the top 10, IMO. With the potential to be top 5 if he stays healthy.
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