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I don't believe we tried hard enough on offense. That is pathetic. I expected this to be a good game for Snead and he gets 1 target?

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Yeah they was weird. Then Ingram had that big run and they just gave the ball to Spiller all the time after that. Wtf?

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And, where was Brees' man Watson. WTF? And, why aren't we using Coleman either? The play calling the whole game made no sense.

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They gave up. Plain and simple. You have your best back on the bench when trying to pick up a yard. Then you finish the game with hightower running it the rest of the way. The 4th qtr couldn't end fast enough for us. I thought last week's loss was bad but this was the most embarrassing loss to date in the Payton era. They have thrown in the towrl.

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O-line collapsed.

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Puzzling for me too CM.

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Brees didn't get the memo that we gave up on the season and went for it on 4th down on our side of the field. Apparently, he was the only one cause the entire team got that memo after halftime. The ones who tried to start a rebellion was benched or injured (Ingram, Kikaha),,, just plain out pathetic!!!


I don't know if Payton trying to force the hands of the executives to terminate him. Rob Ryan, did he get amnesia on how to run a defense. Defense, do you have any pride? Jahari Evans it's time for you to retire. Colston luv ya but you need to retire. Spiller, you need to be in jail for robbery (tear up your contract). Byrd, you have more in common with Spiller besides Buffalo (robber) Vacarro, how hard is it to play man? You left theTE so wide open that if you didn't follow him in motion I would've never knew who responsibility he was. You can't play zone and you take poor angles like you don't want tackle. Browner, I thought the saints couldn't sign a worst cb free agent than Jason David,,, I was wrong. Anthony, it's time for you to step up and be a leader.

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I read that Ingram got nicked up early in the game and thats why Spiller played more.

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all I saw was SP plugging in the bench by the second quarter when Kelemete replaced Litto. from there on the saints were free wheeling with all the back ups for the most part.

Why? your guess is ass good as mine. My guess?

Starting roster evaluations for the pre draft needs chart.

Litto is a FA in 2016 so lets see if we get stuck paying as a starter or do we have something on the bench to work with? Might get luck and have some one to plug in for Evans. It's a swing and a miss! stttttrrrrrike one

From there on it was WTH lets see what the rest can do.

your guess?

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I've been bashing the defense about pretty much everything they stand for in life, and rightfully so. But I have to say, the most embarrassing moment I may have ever seen in the entire Payton/Brees era came when Drew decided on his own that he would go for it on 4th down at his own 25 (or wherever it was) in the 4th quarter, down by 30. That Drew would go for that was puzzling, but that alone was not what made it embarrassing.

Two things: Payton clearly wanted no part of going for it, and yet he just stared out onto the field, confused, and didn't call a timeout. The second part is that Drew then proceeds to, on 4th and 4, throw a two yard pass to a guy who had a defender building a house and raising his family on his back. He could not possibly have been less open.

I know Drew is a hall of famer, and yada yada, but if you're Sean Payton, do you really want to let that guy just walk on you? I appreciated that Drew didn't want to give up. I wasn't mad at him for WANTING to go for it, even though the situation clearly seemed unreasonable to do so. I just figured "yeah, sean's gonna overrule him".

But when he was actually allowed to defy his own head coach, and then proceeded to make a dumb pass... All I could do was chuckle and say "wow... what a mess".

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Payton lost the team last year. The only difference this year is some different players.

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Metal,
I saw that as well ...

I'm at the point where I think these guys are not zoned in or responding to SP anymore. Not that Drew was right, but man it seems that everyone on this team is doing their own thing. We are not on the same page offensively, defensively or special teams :help:.

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Exactly, man. That's what made that whole situation unsettling for me. The play was obviously ridiculous, but we see a lot of those. We're Saints fans.

It was all about the fact that there was no respect there. And from the face of the franchise, no less. I'm not saying that Brees hates Payton, or that he's going to do that on every play from here on out. But you could see a disconnect beyond just the play, itself.

You couple that with all the other squabbling going on, and the fact that Browner is continuously allowed to run amuck, both on the field and off it. It's not pretty.

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Snead is battling a knee injury, so I would imagine as quickly as it got out of hand in the second half it didn't make much sense to play him.

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For some reason the Coach didn't know it was 4th down.

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Agree, not much discipline /teamwork out there. Looked like things were improving and then the tranny just gave out. I understand, a lot of new faces but I have seen many of patched up teams in mid season hold it together. This looks like something way more to do with than players.

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Snead had one target and yet Coleman was nearly invisible again.

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A rookie does not need to be the leader. That might be a problem if that was why we drafted him. There are older leaders that simply overshadow him. That's not good for a defense. He needs to just listen.

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Spiller ran the ball 3 more times than Ingram Hightower had the most touches 11

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Coleman played 1 snap no more no less and had a catch what more could the guy do hump Payton's leg

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I would like to see Coleman be more involved in the game. One play, one catch.

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That was one play at the end of the game where it really didn't make difference whether we went for it or not our defense was going to give up a score regardless bad throw bad protection that play is really being given to much attention

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Ok so somebody did hear me it's like Payton says go get this 1st down real quick but come right back (to the bench)

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It matters, because it looked pathetic on all parts. There's no reason to go for it down by 30 with 9 minutes left, from that part of the field. The fact that he waved off his own coach and the coach just let it happen... Who exactly runs this team?

And then, for all Drew's heroic intentions, he throws the dumbest pass possible. It's a combination of how the whole game, and season have gone leading into one of the dumbest plays of the year, in which the player made himself the coach, that makes it stand out.

Nobody is saying "man, that play was so stupid. It cost us the game". It's not about whether or not it made a difference in the outcome. It's how bad of a look it gave the team, after everything that had already happened.

That's why I personally took exception to that play.

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but didn't that play to coleman remind you of colston 10 years ago.catch and slip for five more.

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I don't know why payton seems he has to play coleston. season is over put the future in and get snaps, the slow and gutless stay on the bench, ala ,ingram. that just can't fall right. if lewis would of layed his ass on the tackle and not try to tackle with his hands and knees, he would last longer in a game. its the same ole crap from the same ones who keeps getting hurt from trying to tackle or be tackled. the ones that trying to save their body for the next 2-4 million. its not hard to see whats going on.