Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 681398)

Problem is still in-house with the organization...

We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting:

NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him)
OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB)
OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason)

So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!?

Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!?

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 681510)

This above is awful for developing talent & continuity with any defense. Then you have Browner with that "C" on his chest with corners Breaux & Swann in their 1st year. What are we trying to accomplish on defense?

If anyone thinks this is all Rob Ryan for this historically terrible defense, I think it's the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome. Sometimes we get so focused on Ryan that we forget everything that led up to this point.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 681398)

I don't like laying all this at Rob Ryan's feet - to do so is a mistake...

Problem is still in-house with the organization...

We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting:

NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him)
OLB Ronald Powell (Drafted, since released)
OLB Parys Halralson (Signed, Tried to convert him to DE, should have saved the trouble and just cut him)
OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB)
OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason)
LB Dannel Ellerbe (Signed, Best years were in a 3-4 front)

So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!?

Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!?

Why did we sign Williams, who, at his age should be standing off the edge as a 3-4 DE/DT and we're counting on him as a pass rusher?!?

Defensive Decisions by committee are why we are, where we are on defense and this team is sucking big time...

Only reason why I want to see Ryan go is so we can see the problem will still be there and they'll be no hiding it...

Entire Defensive Staff will go, though I'd give the secondary another shot because you can't expect them to cover with no, none, pass rush...

Unless, of course, they recommended signing Browner, then they'd have to go with the other kids...

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 681405)

Problems can't be fixed until Allen, Vitt and Johnson are gone. It's time for Payton's buddies to go and get some real coaching in here

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 681604)

Well that's not going to happen, so get over it. Payton needs those yes men in the future. He's not going to be with us forever.

Originally Posted by MaggieMayTB (Post 681224)

Monday will be ugly.

RR is gone.

My prediction, first time I felt it deep and it will happen.
And RR is not alone....

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 681639)

Nailed it! Now, how 'bout some Powerball numbers? :D