Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway

RaginCajun83 · 11-16-2015, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Nope. Bogus. Brees was waving off the punt team. You could see it during the game. Drew took over from the field.

That is actually worse than Payton not knowing if it was 4th Down or not. A person can make a mistake (yeah, that is a HUGE mistake for a HC), but for a player...even a fuuture HoFer like Drew...to override the HC inside the 30 yard line in a blowout on the road on 4th down in the 4th Qtr? 52 other players saw that. The rest of the staff saw that.

The defense had to go out there and defend 20 something yards after we didn't make the 1st down around the 25 yard line. Don't think the defense was mad about that? They were already the laughing stock of the NFL before that happened. This kind of thing divides a team...if it hasn't happened already, that is.

I've seen Brady and Manning do it at different times in their career so its really no BFD that Brees did it

CharityMike · 11-16-2015, 12:31 PM

This staff acts like it has never heard of a qb sneak.

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Rugby Saint II · 11-16-2015, 12:47 PM

Yeah, Drew and Payton don't look like they are on the same page.

Barry from MS · 11-16-2015, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

I've seen Brady and Manning do it at different times in their career so its really no BFD that Brees did it

Was Brady & Manning getting beat down by 30 points in the 4th Qtr and going for it on their own 22 yard line? Of course not.

The game was over & out of reach. Not making the 1st down put our defense back on the field to defend 22 yards down by 30 in the 4th Qtr. If I was playing defense, it would be hard to thank Drew for that. The defense was already embarrassed.

Saintsfan4ever · 11-16-2015, 03:47 PM

If Sean Payton is claiming that he didn't know it was 4th down, then he's saying that to protect himself. Because that's a load of BS. Drew waived off the punt team, and everybody saw it including Sean Payton.
But it does call into question the leadership of this team. I love Brees, but after that temper-tantrum srew up of waiving off the sideline on 4th down, I would have turned around and told Grayson "start warming up", and I would have sit Mr. Brees down.

Rell&Gold · 11-16-2015, 04:05 PM

The game was already over what did it matter

Barry from MS · 11-16-2015, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

The game was already over what did it matter

1) Control of the team. The QB overrode the HC from the field.
2) Not putting half your teammates (the embarrassed defense) in an unnecessary situation with defending 22 yards while behind 30 points in the 4th Qtr.
3) Washington adding one more score to a 30 point lead in the 4th Qtr.

It matters. NFL players have pride. Gruden had mercy and didn't go for the TD to go up 37. He easily could have.

hagan714 · 11-16-2015, 05:11 PM

the teams dumps on the field and we are going to pick through it looking for peanuts?

whip it from the bottom of your shoe and move on. it ain't worth looking at it stinks enough as it is.

everyone is to blame. they stunk up the place and embarrassed not only the fans but them selves as a team.

NOLA54 · 11-16-2015, 05:31 PM

Inexcusable.

burningmetal · 11-16-2015, 05:34 PM

Laugh out freaking loud... Sean knew exactly what down it was. From Drew waving off the punt team, to Sean's expression during and after the play, there is no way Sean didn't know it was 4th down. And as I stated in another post, it was a completely embarrassing moment for this franchise.

11-16-2015, 12:25 PM	#11
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway Originally Posted by Barry from MS Nope. Bogus. Brees was waving off the punt team. You could see it during the game. Drew took over from the field. That is actually worse than Payton not knowing if it was 4th Down or not. A person can make a mistake (yeah, that is a HUGE mistake for a HC), but for a player...even a fuuture HoFer like Drew...to override the HC inside the 30 yard line in a blowout on the road on 4th down in the 4th Qtr? 52 other players saw that. The rest of the staff saw that. The defense had to go out there and defend 20 something yards after we didn't make the 1st down around the 25 yard line. Don't think the defense was mad about that? They were already the laughing stock of the NFL before that happened. This kind of thing divides a team...if it hasn't happened already, that is. I've seen Brady and Manning do it at different times in their career so its really no BFD that Brees did it

11-16-2015, 12:31 PM	#12
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway This staff acts like it has never heard of a qb sneak. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk WHODATINCA likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway Yeah, Drew and Payton don't look like they are on the same page.

11-16-2015, 12:52 PM	#14
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 I've seen Brady and Manning do it at different times in their career so its really no BFD that Brees did it Was Brady & Manning getting beat down by 30 points in the 4th Qtr and going for it on their own 22 yard line? Of course not. The game was over & out of reach. Not making the 1st down put our defense back on the field to defend 22 yards down by 30 in the 4th Qtr. If I was playing defense, it would be hard to thank Drew for that. The defense was already embarrassed.

11-16-2015, 03:47 PM	#15
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway If Sean Payton is claiming that he didn't know it was 4th down, then he's saying that to protect himself. Because that's a load of BS. Drew waived off the punt team, and everybody saw it including Sean Payton. But it does call into question the leadership of this team. I love Brees, but after that temper-tantrum srew up of waiving off the sideline on 4th down, I would have turned around and told Grayson "start warming up", and I would have sit Mr. Brees down.

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Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway The game was already over what did it matter

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway Originally Posted by Rell&Gold The game was already over what did it matter 1) Control of the team. The QB overrode the HC from the field. 2) Not putting half your teammates (the embarrassed defense) in an unnecessary situation with defending 22 yards while behind 30 points in the 4th Qtr. 3) Washington adding one more score to a 30 point lead in the 4th Qtr. It matters. NFL players have pride. Gruden had mercy and didn't go for the TD to go up 37. He easily could have. neugey likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway the teams dumps on the field and we are going to pick through it looking for peanuts? whip it from the bottom of your shoe and move on. it ain't worth looking at it stinks enough as it is. everyone is to blame. they stunk up the place and embarrassed not only the fans but them selves as a team. Saint in Aus likes this.

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11-16-2015, 05:34 PM	#20
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton didn't know it was fourth down; Drew Brees went for it anyway Laugh out freaking loud... Sean knew exactly what down it was. From Drew waving off the punt team, to Sean's expression during and after the play, there is no way Sean didn't know it was 4th down. And as I stated in another post, it was a completely embarrassing moment for this franchise. Barry from MS likes this.

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