Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

Nothing really would surprise me with this team, we could go 4-12, 10-6, or anything in-between ......

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

I'd like to see us get there through the Front Door one day.

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

i could also be dealt a Royal Flush in my next poker game, but probably not gonna happen. Sorry, but just don't think it's in the cards…...

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

I know it seems like ancient history, but the Saints did exactly that in their SB winning year. Started 13-0. Got the #1 seed. Won it all.

So adding the word 'again' is probably appropriate.

But honestly it cannot happen again until 2 things occurs:

1. The defense improves in a few categories:

A. Consistent 3rd down.
B. Takeaways.
C. Pressure on the QB.
D. Play tough in the red zone. No TDs should be the mantra.

2. On the offensive side, more balance and consistency. Run the ball. Dink and dunk. Control time of possession. Take shots when they are there and dump the ball off when it's not. Work every week to break the Saints NFL record of 40 first downs in a regular season game. Make it an offensive goal to have a 100% third down conversion rate by any means.

The year the Saints stormed through the front door the rushing offense was #6 in the league and the defense had 37 takeaways.

But nothing like this will happen with the current discombobulated defense and absolutely non complementary offense.

SFIAH

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

That's what I meant, here are the common game tie-breakers as I see them.

Should saints lose to Carolina here's how they match up vs said contenders.

Minnesota
Atlanta-NO 2, Min 0(they would have to lose this for 9-7)
Arizona-both lose
NYG-NO 3, Min 1
Det-NO 4, Min 3

We have edge.

Seattle
Carolina-both lose
Dallas-1-1
Det-2-2
Arizona-both lose

tie-breaker goes to SOV.

Chicago(they have to lose to Minnesota for this or TB)
If they beat TB
TB-1-1
Arizona-both lose
Washington-Chi 2, NO 1
Detroit-Chi 3, NO 2

bears have the edge

If they beat Min
TB-NO 1, Chi 0
Arizona-both lose
Washington-1-1
Detroit-2-2

tie-breaker goes to SOV which given Romo's injury and KC's turnaround, Chicago may have passed us there.

If saints were to win out

Minnesota
Atlanta-NO 2, Min 0(they would still have to lose this one or Sea)
Arizona-both lose
NYG-NO 3, Min 1
Det-NO 4, Min 3

If Minnesota beats Atlanta this is tied up and tie-breaker goes to SOV which we should narrowly edge them out. I see 66 wins beaten for us and for Minnesota 64.


Seattle
Carolina-NO 1, Sea 0
Dallas-NO 2, Sea 1
Det-NO 3, Sea 2
Arizona-both lose or 3-3(meaning Sea wins here and lose to Min)

Chicago(has to win out)
Chicago still 3-2.

All three of us likely go 3-1 against AFC however if we lose this week but win the remaining games well we have the better CR giving us the tie-breaker. I don't see Seattle losing in Baltimore with what's going on with them.



And realistically I see it like this remaining
Minnesota
@Atlanta-W
Seattle-L
@Arizona-L
Chicago-W
NYG-W
@GB-L
They will lose to Atlanta or Minnesota because luck will keep them from taking the division. If they lose both its good for us. I don't think they lose to Chicago because the NFC North rotation trend for the other three teams has gone 4,3,2,4,3 etc. It will give us the common tie-breaker over them if we win the 5 games we need to.

Seattle
Pittsburgh-W
@Minnesota-W
@Baltimore-W
Cleveland-W
St.Louis-W
@Arizona-W

11-5.

Chicago
SF-W
Was-W
@Min-L
@TB-L(because by this point season's done)
Det-W

8-8

Atlanta
Min-L
@TB-L
@Car-L
@Jac-W
Car-W
NO-L

8-8.

So I might have been 1 off with them.

Winning out gets us in, 9-7 with Minnesota at 9-7 and beating Chicago gets us in.

We cannot get in at 9-7 if Chicago goes 9-7 and Minnesota does not.

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

I don't get the negativity. Everyone got what they wanted with the firing.

I hope like hell we do not get swept by Winston and I see people believe we will lose that game. If we do it will be because Winston will not slow down at any point and allow us to have a chance to come back.

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

Well not true, people wanted the firing before the season, and everything is not black and white. People have a right to reality. Its what makes you keep your job every day. If your company was going the way of the Saints what would you think?

Ive known people here for years and saying the Saints suck or are not a good team is not negative, its reality. Everyone loves them. We dont burn our jersys like aintlanta , and they believe, and will next year. We have faith. I still have faith they will win the SB, but Im not crazy.
But the truth is we are not that good, and the defence is god awful, and you dont fix that in 2 weeks. I think people are just being truethful.

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

:popcorn:

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

Tell that to Dan Campbell.

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 

After the saints lost to the texans, 9-7 puts us in a great spot after all as our conference record will be better than Minnesota, Chicago, and our SOV is going to be better than Seattle. The only tie-breaker we lose is in the division to TB. That is if we win out. Which based on our play is unlikely.