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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Arizona last game of season. I don't think Arizona loses again remaining unless they have everything locked up. If Carolina is undefeated going into week 17, they will have no need to play to win. They will rest their starters. ...

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Old 11-26-2015, 06:28 PM   #1
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We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.

Arizona last game of season. I don't think Arizona loses again remaining unless they have everything locked up. If Carolina is undefeated going into week 17, they will have no need to play to win. They will rest their starters. And make no mistake, if Carolina loses one more game before that week Goodell will see to it their game against TB is flexed to the late afternoon.

So what needs to happen is this. Minnesota has to lose to Atlanta, Seattle, Arizona, and Green Bay. Three of them are highly possible. Seattle is actually a toss-up. So that would mean we need to beat Carolina, and Atlanta or NYG have to beat them also. Can that happen? And if Atlanta beats them they better lose to TB or that also screws us going into the last game.

Week 13 the 1:00 games should feature Seattle@Minnesota, so that outcome will be determined before we play Carolina. I hope we beat them, we have to. But it's going to be hard so Seattle winning in Minnesota is our only hope. Or maybe Chicago or the giants can pull out an upset against them.
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Old 11-26-2015, 07:33 PM   #2
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Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.

it is impossible for us to get in at 9-7, we'd have to win 9 games
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Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.

there's always a catch.
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Old 11-26-2015, 11:18 PM   #4
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Yeah and forget hoping for the bears to win in Minnesota. 9-7 just went out the door.
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Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.

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Yeah and forget hoping for the bears to win in Minnesota. 9-7 just went out the door.
Da Bears beat Green Bay in Green Bay so it is a possibility
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Old 11-28-2015, 12:18 AM   #6
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Da Bears beat Green Bay in Green Bay so it is a possibility

That's what I meant, here are the common game tie-breakers as I see them.

Should saints lose to Carolina here's how they match up vs said contenders.

Minnesota
Atlanta-NO 2, Min 0(they would have to lose this for 9-7)
Arizona-both lose
NYG-NO 3, Min 1
Det-NO 4, Min 3

We have edge.

Seattle
Carolina-both lose
Dallas-1-1
Det-2-2
Arizona-both lose

tie-breaker goes to SOV.

Chicago(they have to lose to Minnesota for this or TB)
If they beat TB
TB-1-1
Arizona-both lose
Washington-Chi 2, NO 1
Detroit-Chi 3, NO 2

bears have the edge

If they beat Min
TB-NO 1, Chi 0
Arizona-both lose
Washington-1-1
Detroit-2-2

tie-breaker goes to SOV which given Romo's injury and KC's turnaround, Chicago may have passed us there.

If saints were to win out

Minnesota
Atlanta-NO 2, Min 0(they would still have to lose this one or Sea)
Arizona-both lose
NYG-NO 3, Min 1
Det-NO 4, Min 3

If Minnesota beats Atlanta this is tied up and tie-breaker goes to SOV which we should narrowly edge them out. I see 66 wins beaten for us and for Minnesota 64.


Seattle
Carolina-NO 1, Sea 0
Dallas-NO 2, Sea 1
Det-NO 3, Sea 2
Arizona-both lose or 3-3(meaning Sea wins here and lose to Min)

Chicago(has to win out)
Chicago still 3-2.

All three of us likely go 3-1 against AFC however if we lose this week but win the remaining games well we have the better CR giving us the tie-breaker. I don't see Seattle losing in Baltimore with what's going on with them.



And realistically I see it like this remaining
Minnesota
@Atlanta-W
Seattle-L
@Arizona-L
Chicago-W
NYG-W
@GB-L
They will lose to Atlanta or Minnesota because luck will keep them from taking the division. If they lose both its good for us. I don't think they lose to Chicago because the NFC North rotation trend for the other three teams has gone 4,3,2,4,3 etc. It will give us the common tie-breaker over them if we win the 5 games we need to.

Seattle
Pittsburgh-W
@Minnesota-W
@Baltimore-W
Cleveland-W
St.Louis-W
@Arizona-W

11-5.

Chicago
SF-W
Was-W
@Min-L
@TB-L(because by this point season's done)
Det-W

8-8

Atlanta
Min-L
@TB-L
@Car-L
@Jac-W
Car-W
NO-L

8-8.

So I might have been 1 off with them.

Winning out gets us in, 9-7 with Minnesota at 9-7 and beating Chicago gets us in.

We cannot get in at 9-7 if Chicago goes 9-7 and Minnesota does not.
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Wait...what?
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What he said
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Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.

Ive always thought when you start hoping for other teams to lose to make the playoffs then you suck, and are one and done if you make it, lol.

I just want to kick the ever loving sh#t out of the kitty posers with their #15 ranked offence and #17 ranked infantile qb scam newton, then cook the dirty birds again and Ill be happy.

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Ive always thought when you start hoping for other teams to lose to make the playoffs then you suck, and are one and done if you make it, lol.

I just want to kick the ever loving sh#t out of the kitty posers with their #15 ranked offence and #17 ranked infantile qb scam newton, then cook the dirty birds again and Ill be happy.
Agreed knock out the Panthers perfect season and beat Atlanta again.
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