Re: So who do we draft?
 

And who was it that said not sold on Nkdemevich? He plays in the SEC.

Look when the combine happens you watch and see where the SEC guys end up compared to other conferences' players.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

The best damn cornerbacks, safeties and defensive lineman in the draft. We will need to pick up 1 or 2 offensive lineman and 1 or 2 wide receivers in FA. We also need to start the development of Brees' replacement

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Excellent choice, build the lines or the rest doesn't matter. That's been one of Paytons biggest failures, going after DBs and offensive weapons while both lines deteriorate.

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Its the recipe for success.

But obviously that alone won't do it. But without solid trenches, it makes everything else more difficult.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Have to build your lines first. We had a great OL and the meager DL fed off of it. Our lines are really bad. It could take a couple of years to solidify one side. I think OL is the way to go. DL, more prone to injuries. We don't build lines, just patch holes. This ship is barely afloat.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

It never takes a couple of years to solidify anything other than QB.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

I got to go O-line in the 1st. D-line in the 2nd. If this trend of losing continus a 5th pick or lower could happen with a low 30's. Trading Jordan could get us about any type of line O or D we wanted with picks that low. Rebuild complete.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

The failure rate of draft picks is way way too high to risk trading a star player for a couple of high picks.

It doesn't make sense at all.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

We need a DE that can crush the pocket and attack the QB, Cam Jordan just isn't good enough. We need to trade him while he may still have some value. and pick up his replacement. Also need a DT that can push the middle of the pocket and an OLB that can run and disrupt. After that get a big WR with speed that might be under the radar and address the two G spots and RT. Unfortunately we're stuck with Unger for now, but he's been underwhelming so far. Oh, and we need Browner's replacement.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

unger has been bad?

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Personal preference: Best available D-lineman & O-lineman 1st through 3rd Rounds.

No trading up; only trade down for additional picks.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

So how is Schereff doing for Washington so far?

Re: So who do we draft?
 

I don't know what type of Money Von Miller would command but that would get us a pass rusher of the highest caliber.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Steady but at least his team is finding a way to win.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Get a Vet WR and hold off on drafting one until rd 3. We need to hit with a DL that has a great pass rush and a OL that can be plugged in right away. Drew has a very fast release but this year it's not even close to fast enough. The guy needs more time. And with a dominant pass rush our DB's will look much better.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Had been holding this back out of sensitivity to the Saints onfield struggles...

My ole draft pal Hagan will tell you that I'm all about talking the draft...

So, while things are still very fluid with upcoming Senior/All-Star Games, NFL Combine and Pro Days...

Here's the Way Too Early Ante Senior Bowls JP's Saints Big Board

Draft Prospects Watch List By Round (early favs in bold)...

No. ### (R1, ##) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) CB Vernon Hargreaves III, Florida; Height: 5' 11"; Weight: 199 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) LB Reggie Ragland, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 252 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) WR Michael Thomas, Ohio St; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 210 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) DL Kenny Clark, UCLA; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 308 lbs.


No. ### (R2, ##) DL Shawn Oakman, Baylor; 6' 8", 276 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) LB Joshua Perry, Ohio St; 6' 4", 254 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) LB Kendall Beckwith, LSU; 6' 2", 252 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) TE Hunter Henry, Baylor; 6' 5", 253 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; 6' 2", 210 lbs.


No. ### (R3, ##) QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; 6' 4", 218 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) OG Greg Pyke, Georgia; 6' 5", 313 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) CB Kendall Fuller, Virginia Tech; 6' 0", 197 lbs.*
No. ### (R3, ##) NT Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech; 6' 3", 309 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) RB Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech; 5' 10", 210 lbs.


No. ### (R4, ##) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; 6’ 5”, 335 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) WR Devon Cajuste, Stanford; 6’ 3”, 227 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; 6’ 5”, 287 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) DB Deon Bush, Miami (FL); 6’ 1”, 205 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) LB Blake Martinez, Stanford; 6' 2", 245 lbs.
 

No. ### (R5, ##) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; 6’ 2”, 223 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) TE Jerrell Adams, South Carolina; 6’ 5”, 232 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) OG Joshua Garnett, Stanford; 6’ 4”, 321 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) LB Terrance Smith, Florida St; 6’ 3”, 235 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) DE Ufomba Kamalu, Miami (FL); 6’ 5”, 295 lbs.


No. ### (R6, ##) NT Christian Hayward, San Diego St; 6' 2", 324 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) DB Doug Middleton, Appalachian State; 6' 0", 210 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) LB Jared Norris, Utah; 6’ 1”, 240 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) DE Joel Heath, Michigan St; 6’ 5”, 296 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) OG Joe Dahl, Washington St; 6’ 4”, 303 lbs.


No. ### (R7, ##) P Drew Kaser, Texas A & M; 6' 3", 210 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) TE Jake McGee, Florida; 6' 5", 249 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) LB Zeek Bigger, East Carolina; 6' 2", 220 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) OG Ted Karras, Illinois; 6' 4", 310 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) SS Josh Harvey-Clemons, Louisville; 6' 4", 230 lbs.

*Injury status may cause slide

Re: So who do we draft?
 

There's college talent and there's professional talent. Apples and oranges. The SEC recruits a lot of good talent and several of those schools develop it to a high college level. However, those boys enter the pros and they're just as lost as everyone else without good coaches bringing them up to pro speed.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

I said last year that we require a NT.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

We used a draft pick on a quarterback last year . I think that third rounder should be a NT also.

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+1. I would even consider rd 2 on a NT. I didn't see it (may have missed it) mentioned in JP or Hagin earlier post on draft picks but I'm surprised no one has brought up the name A'Shawn Robinson from Bama.

I think this kid will be a solid RUN STUFFER at the NFL level.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Sold. We're not getting above Level "Diddly Poo" with this defense until we fix this defensive front.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Trayvon Dural from LSU could be a 2nd or 3rd round steal and become a top tier WR.

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I've been adamant that we need a DT who can collapse the pocket and I'm liking Andrew Billings more and more. He put on a clinic today against Texas.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Going to be between a DT in a 4-3 or a true big nasty NT in a 3-4 .

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Honestly we need both... A NT who doesn't get blown off the line of scrimmage and can eat blockers and a 3-technique DT who can rush the passer.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Is he the number 1 in LSU? If not then no.

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He needs more time? He's already holding the ball too long. He needs someone to get open.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Gurley. And then go look at Gordon.

When we're talking about first year success and getting better the next year the SEC has done it better than anyone. I'm not saying anyone in the SEC, stay away from SEC teams that give u points for defense and stay away from system offenses. Are you saying AJ, Jones, Gurley were developed. Saban develops players. Also look at the kids in California today and look at them in the south. The kids out west need all the coaching and help they can get while those in the south work hard. When was the last time anything was successful from usc? I told everyone about Lee and Agholor. Neither have done anything significant. Strong? Where is he? Why is he not starting in Houston? top talent wants to play in the SEC because of the atmosphere and acceptance. You have to think about stuff like this to factor where heart wants to be at.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Myles Jack from UCLA?

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Clemson's DE Shaq Lawson please

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Laquan Treadwell.

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lets see what today brings.

if we lose i fear the season is done and the team will collapse for the most part.

If we win that should be huge for this team to jump start a strong finish to the season.

difference? picking 5th? or picking close to 20?

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Soooo apparently Robert Nkemdiche tried to commit suicide. That's pretty weird.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

^that leaves the other one then, Lawson.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Jaylon Smith looks like a good prospect. I think Jaylon, Kikaha, and Anthony would make a nice young LB corps. Although a beast WR would be nice, I don't think we're at that point yet to make it a #1 priority. OG,LB,and DT are more important IMHO.

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My mom was at the hotel. Apparantly he was on Mojo, the synthetic mary jane. Same thing happened to his brother earlier in the week lol

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I don't know if he was trying to commit suicide or if he thought he was about to be caught with the marijuana and tried to escape out the window and fell. They said the window was broken. Seems odd that he didn't just open the freakin' window... Regardless of what he was trying to do.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

He was named to the all-conference first team in C-USA.
C-USA Announces Football All-Conference Teams - Conference USA Official Athletic Site

Re: So who do we draft?
 

Great list Hagan. I'm already wondering how our draft boards will be set up.

We need a NT, OG and WR first and foremost. These positions, if they were solid selections, would make us contenders again. I'm torn between a DT or WR in the first. I'm hoping for a nasty NT. I want to solidify the O-line but I don't want to take a chance on a mid to late rounder to protect Drew Brees.

Re: So who do we draft?
 

JP's Saints Early Mock

No. ### (R1, ##) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

No. ### (R2, ##) CB Kendall Fuller, Virginia Tech; 6' 0", 197 lbs.*

No. ### (R3, ##) QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; 6' 4", 218 lbs.

No. ### (R4, ##) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; 6’ 5”, 335 lbs.

No. ### (R5, ##) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; 6’ 2”, 223 lbs.

No. ### (R6, ##) NT Christian Hayward, San Diego St; 6' 2", 324 lbs.

No. ### (R7, ##) DE Ufomba Kamalu, Miami (FL); 6’ 5”, 295 lbs.

*Injury status may cause slide