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WillSaints81 11-29-2015 05:25 PM

So who do we draft?
 
Do we go for the guy from Auburn(forgot his name for some reason) or do we get a much needed receiver that is 6'2 or higher? Can we exqect Brees to be able to work with number 2s when he hasn't so far to the qoint needed?

My other key does not work sorry so have to qut q instead of .

neugey 11-29-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 683168)
Do we go for the guy from Auburn(forgot his name for some reason) or do we get a much needed receiver that is 6'2 or higher? Can we exqect Brees to be able to work with number 2s when he hasn't so far to the qoint needed?

My other key does not work sorry so have to qut q instead of .

Don't need to overrate height when evaluating. Or we could end up with another Browner.

VegasSaint9 11-29-2015 05:40 PM

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We need the best OLB/DE available. Another coverage ILB. A dominant WR, and Oline mostly. Lb depth would be good so the defense doesnt die mid season like this year.

hagan714 11-29-2015 06:03 PM

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at this rate we are getting back into what they call a sure thing. lmao sure thing right. But one of my favs for the saints that stayed out of the draft last year is here this year.

Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame 6055 315 5.17

He would be sweet to have. Not only is he one of the top OT but many think a move back to LOG were he started would be his best move and give him a shot at multiple years as an all pro vs outside at OT. Which I can understand and see in his game. You can speed rush the kid but your not going to out dance him or push him around a phone booth. Switches off smoothly and is incredibly smart.

Armstead and Stanely would be a dangerous duo. Add to it the ability to jump outside in case of injury would be huge. he can go RT or LT. he is that gifted. Unlike Andrus Peat, he is not a project to make versatile.

I had him rated as the same type of player Collins last year. An OT that might be better off at OG. Stanely has more natural athletic ability.

Then draft one of the two road graders from Arkansas in the middle rounds
Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28
Denver Kirkland OG/OT Arkansas 6045 340 5.47

The saints OL wows would all but disappear.

just a thought.

SmashMouth 11-29-2015 06:14 PM

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Yes.... And more thoughts needed.

The Dude 11-29-2015 06:19 PM

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Get a good legitimate number 1 reciever in the first. Draft defensive and offensive line including a pass rusher. Our secondary will be fine.

WillSaints81 11-29-2015 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 683173)
We need the best OLB/DE available. Another coverage ILB. A dominant WR, and Oline mostly. Lb depth would be good so the defense doesnt die mid season like this year.


So how do we get all of that in one offseason?

ChrisXVI 11-29-2015 06:24 PM

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1a) DT who can rush the passer

1b) Big, strong possession WR

WillSaints81 11-29-2015 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 683174)
at this rate we are getting back into what they call a sure thing. lmao sure thing right. But one of my favs for the saints that stayed out of the draft last year is here this year.

Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame 6055 315 5.17

He would be sweet to have. Not only is he one of the top OT but many think a move back to LOG were he started would be his best move and give him a shot at multiple years as an all pro vs outside at OT. Which I can understand and see in his game. You can speed rush the kid but your not going to out dance him or push him around a phone booth. Switches off smoothly and is incredibly smart.

Armstead and Stanely would be a dangerous duo. Add to it the ability to jump outside in case of injury would be huge. he can go RT or LT. he is that gifted. Unlike Andrus Peat, he is not a project to make versatile.

I had him rated as the same type of player Collins last year. An OT that might be better off at OG. Stanely has more natural athletic ability.

Then draft one of the two road graders from Arkansas in the middle rounds
Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28
Denver Kirkland OG/OT Arkansas 6045 340 5.47

The saints OL wows would all but disappear.

just a thought.

He's going to need someone to throw to?

Cruize 11-29-2015 06:31 PM

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Two G's, 1 TE, 1 WR, 1 LB, 1 DT, 1 CB.

AllSaints 11-29-2015 06:38 PM

Re: So who do we draft?
 
Imma say RG or LG,DE,OLB,ILB,WR

|Mitch| 11-29-2015 06:44 PM

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Depends on what the coaching staff looks like next year. I can see Payton drafting offense in the first round

hagan714 11-29-2015 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 683180)
He's going to need someone to throw to?

Round 1 Laquon Treadwell WR Mississippi 6031 210 4.52
Round 2 Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh 6015 200 4.47
Round 3/4 Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48
Round 5 has more than a few.
Round 7 Paul McRoberts, WR, Southeast Missouri 6021 197 4.53

TE?
Jake Butt TE Michigan 6051 248 4.83
Hunter Henry*, TE, Arkansas 6052 253 4.79
OJ Howard leads the list of other through round 3

ChrisXVI 11-29-2015 07:42 PM

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Jeanpierre and Hagan... It might be time to fire up the official 2016 draft thread.

Danno 11-29-2015 07:59 PM

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Draft talk? Really? WOT

spkb25 11-29-2015 08:11 PM

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can we get a big nasty nt?, please...

spkb25 11-29-2015 08:13 PM

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and a guard or two, please.

ChrisXVI 11-29-2015 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 683210)
can we get a big nasty nt?, please...

Can't like this post enough. I think so many of our defensive woes could be solved by a DT who can collapse the pocket. Heck, we might as well look for two of them.

WillSaints81 11-29-2015 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 683202)
Round 1 Laquon Treadwell WR Mississippi 6031 210 4.52
Round 2 Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh 6015 200 4.47
Round 3/4 Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48
Round 5 has more than a few.
Round 7 Paul McRoberts, WR, Southeast Missouri 6021 197 4.53

TE?
Jake Butt TE Michigan 6051 248 4.83
Hunter Henry*, TE, Arkansas 6052 253 4.79
OJ Howard leads the list of other through round 3

No offense but the first one I do not like. I don't like the name either. And can we bank on anyone outside of first round or 2 to step up as a number one in NFL. Others so far have not. We need a NFL receiver.

ChrisXVI 11-29-2015 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 683215)
No offense but the first one I do not like. I don't like the name either. And can we bank on anyone outside of first round or 2 to step up as a number one in NFL. Others so far have not. We need a NFL receiver.

What don't you like about Treadwell?? He's the ultimate possession WR who also happens to be a great blocker.

K Major 11-29-2015 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 683215)
No offense but the first one I do not like. I don't like the name either. And can we bank on anyone outside of first round or 2 to step up as a number one in NFL. Others so far have not. We need a NFL receiver.

Obviously, you haven't watched any Ole Miss games this season.

Treadwell is projected to be a top 10 selection on draft day.

ChrisXVI 11-29-2015 08:47 PM

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Treadwell is the only WR I want in the first round at this point. If he's off the board then I'm looking at DT's like Andrew Billings, A'Shawn Robinson, Adolphus Washington... It's a pretty good year for DT's.

K Major 11-29-2015 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 683224)
A'Shawn Robinson, Adolphus Washington... It's a pretty good year for DT's.

Yes sir, all very good selections. I think the 2016 class is deep in talent.

ChrisXVI 11-29-2015 09:01 PM

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We have one other issue though that I haven't seen much talk about. That issue being weak side LB. Ellerbe hasn't been healthy for two years now going back to his time at Miami. If Ellerbe can't bounce back then we could also look for that stud weak side LB in the first round. Maybe Myles Jack or Leonard Floyd?

QBREES9 11-29-2015 11:04 PM

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5 O-Lineman.

nola_swammi 11-30-2015 03:01 AM

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If we end up with the number one pick in the draft, do we pick up a qb or trade down? That will certainly be the question.

hagan714 11-30-2015 05:39 AM

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Let us look at the state of affairs first off

1. Tennessee Titans: 2-9 (.514 SOS)
2. Cleveland Browns: 2-8 (.511 strength of schedule)
3. Baltimore Ravens: 3-7 (.500 SOS)
4. Dallas Cowboys: 3-8 (.523 SOS)
5. San Diego Chargers: 3-8 (.529 SOS)
6. San Francisco 49ers: 3-8 (.534 SOS)
7. Miami Dolphins: 4-7 (.474 SOS)
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: 4-7 (.486 SOS)
9. Philadelphia Eagles: 4-7 (.511 SOS)
10. St. Louis Rams: 4-7 (.517 SOS)
11. New Orleans Saints: 4-7 (.523 SOS)
12. Detroit Lions: 4-7 (.528 SOS)
12. Detroit Lions: 4-7 (.528 SOS)

How bad of a melt down do you really think this will be?

we have these teams left to play

panthers
bucs
Lions
Jags
falcons

Kiss the top 4 prospect good bye IMO. So here is my short dream list and Each one fills a need

Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State, 6005, 202, 4.49
Jaylon Smith OLB Noter Dame 6025 240 4.67
Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame 6055 315 5.17
Conner Cook QB Michigan St. 6042 220 4.89

I am not completely sold on are
Robert Nkemdiche
Vernon Hargreaves III
Laquon Treadwell

After that it is drafting as usual. Good thing this year there does not appear to be a huge drop of till about the middle of the second so the saints should walk away with two starters easy

but i still have these players as pipe dreams for the saints. The bandwagon is not on fire

Crusader 11-30-2015 05:39 AM

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I want Sebastian Johansson from Marshall in the later rounds, and yes, I am a Sweden homer!

HERDZONE.COM :: Official Athletic Site of Marshall Thundering Herd :: Football

This you tube clip shows a pretty special game. First time two Swedes faced each other in a FBS game. The LT for Purdue #75 is Swedish and so is Johansson #71 the LG for Marshall.


skymike 11-30-2015 07:11 AM

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-- trade the pick for an affordable, solid offensive linemen + a lower pick.

-- trade the next pick for the best available free agent defensive lineman or Linebacker + a lower pick. I dont care which-- but whoever is the best pure football player.

-- trade the next pick for a proven possession receiver + a lower pick.

-- use the remaining picks on LSU players & guys with either phenomenal
stats, or guys who were beasts in college at any position. --these are the picks you can take a chance on, with someone who is a question mark, without mortgaging the future.

Lets be good at something.

SapperSaint 11-30-2015 07:50 AM

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The people in charge of scouting talent couldn't/wouldn't pick the right people if they held every pick in the draft.

exile 11-30-2015 10:44 AM

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Don't forget that next year's UFA list is astonishing.

2016 NFL Free Agents Tracker | Spotrac

Seer1 11-30-2015 11:10 AM

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Screw it! Trade our draft picks for great coaches. Talent is nothing if it isn't developed. Even Browner's going to make the pro bowl somewhere else once he's done with the lack of coaching here.

RaginCajun83 11-30-2015 11:35 AM

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where is Bobby Bouche predicted to go this year?

K Major 11-30-2015 11:40 AM

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(1) - acquire more talent through the draft. I would only look at trades if it involves us getting another draft pick.

At this point we need to come to grips with who we are and start building exclusively through the draft going forward.

brees84 11-30-2015 12:15 PM

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Get Anthony some help. Dude will never fulfill his potential if he keeps playing alongside Hawthorne, Humber and fragile Ellerbe...

Rugby Saint II 11-30-2015 03:27 PM

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DT!!!

Mr.Riaton 11-30-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 683306)
Don't forget that next year's UFA list is astonishing.

2016 NFL Free Agents Tracker | Spotrac

Give me Greg Hardy and Aldon Smith please...

Danno 11-30-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 683349)
Give me Greg Hardy and Aldon Smith please...

Not gonna happen...
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hagan714 11-30-2015 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 683306)
Don't forget that next year's UFA list is astonishing.

2016 NFL Free Agents Tracker | Spotrac

if the saints were smart no FA

WillSaints81 11-30-2015 05:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 683311)
Screw it! Trade our draft picks for great coaches. Talent is nothing if it isn't developed. Even Browner's going to make the pro bowl somewhere else once he's done with the lack of coaching here.

They develop talent in the SEC.


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