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QBREES9 12-01-2015 03:10 PM

Saints defense under Dennis Allen: 'It wasn't as bad as it's been'
 
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It wasn’t pretty at first. Things actually got worse before they got better.

But eventually, the New Orleans Saints defense showed signs of progress during Sunday’s debut of new coordinator Dennis Allen.

After allowing touchdowns on the Houston Texans’ first two drives, the Saints settled in and held Houston to 10 points the rest of the way in a 24-6 loss.

“We had some plays we want back, but I thought we were consistent. I thought our tackling was better,” said safety Kenny Vaccaro, who led the Saints with 13 tackles. “We lost this game, but I thought we progressed a little bit as a defense.


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hagan714 12-01-2015 04:43 PM

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“It wasn’t as bad as it’s been. We can (only) go up.”

really ya think?

AllSaints 12-01-2015 05:13 PM

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started from the bottom now we .... Still at the bottom

SaintsBro 12-01-2015 05:31 PM

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I say, take Breaux as an example...he started out strong, showed promise, a lot of raw talent in that kid. But in the more recent games he's not been graded as well, he's slid into mediocrity, now that the coaching staff has gotten a hold of him and "coached him up." Came in hot, looked sharp, now with each passing week it's like he's rapidly going flat on us. It's gotta be the coaching.

halloween 65 12-01-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 683506)
“It wasn’t as bad as it’s been. We can (only) go up.”

really ya think?

Maybe!!! Houston isn't a juggernnot O by any means.

Danno 12-01-2015 06:28 PM

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I saw improvement from the defense.

I saw suck from the offense.

One game isn't gonna tell us anything about Dennis Allen.

ChrisXVI 12-01-2015 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 683514)
I say, take Breaux as an example...he started out strong, showed promise, a lot of raw talent in that kid. But in the more recent games he's not been graded as well, he's slid into mediocrity, now that the coaching staff has gotten a hold of him and "coached him up." Came in hot, looked sharp, now with each passing week it's like he's rapidly going flat on us. It's gotta be the coaching.

Breaux gave up 1 catch for exactly 1 yard against the Texans.

bobdog86 12-01-2015 06:53 PM

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lipstick on a pig,,,,lipstick on a pig. Progress is measured over time. At least Hoyer didn't set any NFL records. At this point, I am pleased we at least made a change. One game is too early for gauge anything. The measure is from game one probably through the end of season, to see who wants to be part of the program and who deserves to be part of the program. It's probably an audition for a lot of guys.

|Mitch| 12-01-2015 07:06 PM

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After the first two drives; the defense were at least forcing them to punt... Something that Ryan was having trouble getting them to do, Browner was giving up a lot of penalties on 3rd down. Guess what; Browner wasn't flagged but once I believe all game.

Improvement right there...

K Major 12-01-2015 07:22 PM

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Houston final game stats:

362 yards given up
6/13 on 3rd down
2 turnovers
24 points

That's a start right? Allen has a long way to go but I think he simplifies the defense going forward.

Edit: I think this defense will slowly improve :bng:.

frydaddy 12-01-2015 08:49 PM

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"It wasn't as bad as it's been." Slogan for the 2015 Saints season right there folks.

Barry from MS 12-01-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 683532)
Houston final game stats:

362 yards given up
6/13 on 3rd down
2 turnovers
24 points

That's a start right? Allen has a long way to go but I think he simplifies the defense going forward.

Edit: I think this defense will slowly improve :bng:.

I like these improvements, but I like this improvement the most: 24 points. 24 is less than 47.

Yards, just like in the offense rankings, can be misleading. Scoring points & keeping teams from scoring is what actually win ball games. The final score dictates the "W" or the "L" or that rare dad-burn "T".

burningmetal 12-01-2015 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 683527)
Breaux gave up 1 catch for exactly 1 yard against the Texans.

He also had back to back penalties, if I remember right. And he wasn't even covering Hopkins for some reason. He isn't awful but he sure doesn't seem like he's playing as well, to me. Still our best corner, though, with Lewis out.

halloween 65 12-02-2015 08:20 PM

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I'm just wonder since Allen has been here the entire year (as a consultant or whatever his position was) didn't already have a gameplan in place in the Texans game? We got some talent on the D, or do we?

hagan714 12-02-2015 11:18 PM

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Time of Possession 23:37 36:23
First Downs 14 23
Penalty Yards 82 40

this game should have been closer. given the course of events i say not a bad showing for the DC. Still plenty of room for improvement.

Just need time to Jell lol

halloween 65 12-03-2015 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 683671)
Time of Possession 23:37 36:23
First Downs 14 23
Penalty Yards 82 40

this game should have been closer. given the course of events i say not a bad showing for the DC. Still plenty of room for improvement.

Just need time to Jell lol

They need to improve .

NonieT 12-03-2015 10:53 PM

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The offense are the ones that "crap the bed." They put the defense on the field too long and you just can't do that to a defense, especially not the Saints defense.

CharityMike 12-04-2015 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 683532)
Houston final game stats:

362 yards given up
6/13 on 3rd down
2 turnovers
24 points

That's a start right? Allen has a long way to go but I think he simplifies the defense going forward.

Edit: I think this defense will slowly improve :bng:.

Hell, we gave up 362 yards in the first half of the 2 previous games LOL. I'd say that is improvement. But 1 game is only 1 game. But I will take it and lets keep it up. Now if the Offense could get there heads out there poo holes, we could actually win some games.

Rugby Saint II 12-04-2015 04:03 PM

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We will continue to show improvement on defense especially if we can get healthy and put the most of our talent on the field at the same time.

jeanpierre 12-05-2015 03:12 AM

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The more Kenny Vaccaro talks, the more I can see why we need to just simplify the defense even more...

st thomas 12-05-2015 05:20 AM

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looks like we are all seeing them get better. they are hustling to the ball, will see huge improvement in a year to 2 even ,just get another 6 pack and let them and the system age better,like the boys.

Seer1 12-05-2015 03:20 PM

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It's like saying the flood level's dropped below twenty feet.

I seem to be reading, "He's not playing as well as he was," a lot. Hello? Hello? Why are the players getting the blame for this? There's a major amount of talent on the field if the coaches had a clue as how to direct it.

foreverfan 12-05-2015 07:59 PM

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Who cares about our Dennis Allen... did you see Charity Mike's avatar?


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