New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze

12-04-2015, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, I'm ridiculing people who panic over the cap every year.

Down Vote!

Budsdrinker · 12-04-2015, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Expressing concern over the salary cap is hardly panic; what I'd ask...

Have you seen the decline in this team these past five years?

Do you think there is no correlation whatsoever?!?

I'd like to see Drew return the faith he was shown when first signed with a questionable shoulder and a mid-tier quarterback BEFORE Payton's system...

C'mon Drew, be a winner like Brady and be a team player...

The decline hasn't been 5 years. We were 13-3 just 2 years ago. Last year and this year is the decline due to aging OL and injuries on the D. We have a lot of young guys that should be much better next year. If Drew wants to be able to walk and eat solid food after retirement, he will sign a home town deal extension for 3 years which will help solidify the OL and maybe sign some help on the D.

Rugby Saint II · 12-04-2015, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

The decline hasn't been 5 years. We were 13-3 just 2 years ago. Last year and this year is the decline due to aging OL and injuries on the D. We have a lot of young guys that should be much better next year. If Drew wants to be able to walk and eat solid food after retirement, he will sign a home town deal extension for 3 years which will help solidify the OL and maybe sign some help on the D.

It's almost verbatim what I'm thinking.

spkb25 · 12-04-2015, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

The decline hasn't been 5 years. We were 13-3 just 2 years ago. Last year and this year is the decline due to aging OL and injuries on the D. We have a lot of young guys that should be much better next year. If Drew wants to be able to walk and eat solid food after retirement, he will sign a home town deal extension for 3 years which will help solidify the OL and maybe sign some help on the D.

not that you're completely wrong, but 11-5

st thomas · 12-04-2015, 09:09 PM

some point in time drew with Katie bar the door, enough dealing, extending, bonus bonuses. he will say cut this and go sign for 1 more 100 million plus in his last who-ra. like they the mannings , farves, stablers, all wanted. drew brees is as in shape as most rookies, he knows he can play as long as he can work out. its up to us if we will keep trying to put together a pathwork line with wanta bes and use to bes. we need to cut some age old asses like vitt that have no new ideas , payton that never will give up the play calling has to re idea his thinking, because it aint working unless its a pass or 2, we get nobody open because we run the same rtes from 2006 just different names, we go against worst wide out and tight ends and we don't cover because its not payton calling the plays in the game like in practice.

jeanpierre · 12-05-2015, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

The decline hasn't been 5 years. We were 13-3 just 2 years ago. Last year and this year is the decline due to aging OL and injuries on the D. We have a lot of young guys that should be much better next year. If Drew wants to be able to walk and eat solid food after retirement, he will sign a home town deal extension for 3 years which will help solidify the OL and maybe sign some help on the D.

Buds, 13-3 was more than two years ago, brother...

Yeah, I think we finally have had a good draft...

But the FA signings have really sucked balls...

And this year to year, kick the can, band-aid fix for the salary cap has got to be addressed...

The Dude · 12-06-2015, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Wow, this again?

This is probably the best situation we've been in 5 years. Year after year Loomis re-works contracts to get us under the cap and affords us the capability to sign numerous key free agents.

Yet year after year people panic.

Loomis has this under control. If you doubt it you simply aren't paying attention, or you're dumber than a box of Cam Newtons.

Thats why I say the problem isnt so much Loomis. He has always gotten us under the cap and enough under it to sign at least one top teir free agent. Its not his fault those players dont work out as well as planned. If Byrd had come out of the gate screaming and if Unger made a bigger impact we would all be praising him right now. Loomis finds the money, its not his job to figure out who to spend it on.

AsylumGuido · 12-06-2015, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Expressing concern over the salary cap is hardly panic; what I'd ask...

Have you seen the decline in this team these past five years?

Do you think there is no correlation whatsoever?!?

I'd like to see Drew return the faith he was shown when first signed with a questionable shoulder and a mid-tier quarterback BEFORE Payton's system...

C'mon Drew, be a winner like Brady and be a team player...

Brees will restructure an extension basically the same as that of Brady. And Brady was no team player in that deal, either. He got his.

captainshawn · 12-06-2015, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Buds, 13-3 was more than two years ago, brother...

Yeah, I think we finally have had a good draft...

But the FA signings have really sucked balls...

And this year to year, kick the can, band-aid fix for the salary cap has got to be addressed...

2011 - 13 & 3
2012 - 7 & 9
2013 - 11 & 5
2014 - 7 & 9
2015 - ?

The Dude · 12-06-2015, 01:18 PM

Its not the cap situation that has us in trouble. Its scouting and decisions on personnel. Loomis finds the money, every year and he can keep kicking it down the road and working magic. The problem is what the coaching staff spends that money on. Like I said earlier. He always gets us below the cap with enough left over. Its not his fault it isnt spent right. He will restructure Drew, work some magic and get us under the cap again. We will find a big free agent or two and hope to god there are different people on staff who know how to get the right personnel . The cap doesnt worry me one bit.
Byrd, Unger, Browner, Ellerbie were supposed to be upgrades and we got them signed.

12-04-2015, 07:02 AM	#11
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12-04-2015, 09:27 AM	#12
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze Originally Posted by jeanpierre Expressing concern over the salary cap is hardly panic; what I'd ask... Have you seen the decline in this team these past five years? Do you think there is no correlation whatsoever?!? I'd like to see Drew return the faith he was shown when first signed with a questionable shoulder and a mid-tier quarterback BEFORE Payton's system... C'mon Drew, be a winner like Brady and be a team player... The decline hasn't been 5 years. We were 13-3 just 2 years ago. Last year and this year is the decline due to aging OL and injuries on the D. We have a lot of young guys that should be much better next year. If Drew wants to be able to walk and eat solid food after retirement, he will sign a home town deal extension for 3 years which will help solidify the OL and maybe sign some help on the D. Rugby Saint II and captainshawn like this.

12-04-2015, 03:36 PM	#13
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze Originally Posted by Budsdrinker The decline hasn't been 5 years. We were 13-3 just 2 years ago. Last year and this year is the decline due to aging OL and injuries on the D. We have a lot of young guys that should be much better next year. If Drew wants to be able to walk and eat solid food after retirement, he will sign a home town deal extension for 3 years which will help solidify the OL and maybe sign some help on the D. It's almost verbatim what I'm thinking.

12-04-2015, 04:08 PM	#14
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze Originally Posted by Budsdrinker The decline hasn't been 5 years. We were 13-3 just 2 years ago. Last year and this year is the decline due to aging OL and injuries on the D. We have a lot of young guys that should be much better next year. If Drew wants to be able to walk and eat solid food after retirement, he will sign a home town deal extension for 3 years which will help solidify the OL and maybe sign some help on the D. not that you're completely wrong, but 11-5 MatthewT and WillSaints81 like this.

12-04-2015, 09:09 PM	#15
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze some point in time drew with Katie bar the door, enough dealing, extending, bonus bonuses. he will say cut this and go sign for 1 more 100 million plus in his last who-ra. like they the mannings , farves, stablers, all wanted. drew brees is as in shape as most rookies, he knows he can play as long as he can work out. its up to us if we will keep trying to put together a pathwork line with wanta bes and use to bes. we need to cut some age old asses like vitt that have no new ideas , payton that never will give up the play calling has to re idea his thinking, because it aint working unless its a pass or 2, we get nobody open because we run the same rtes from 2006 just different names, we go against worst wide out and tight ends and we don't cover because its not payton calling the plays in the game like in practice.
	thats the fact jack!!!!!

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12-05-2015, 03:27 AM	#16
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze Originally Posted by Budsdrinker The decline hasn't been 5 years. We were 13-3 just 2 years ago. Last year and this year is the decline due to aging OL and injuries on the D. We have a lot of young guys that should be much better next year. If Drew wants to be able to walk and eat solid food after retirement, he will sign a home town deal extension for 3 years which will help solidify the OL and maybe sign some help on the D. Buds, 13-3 was more than two years ago, brother... Yeah, I think we finally have had a good draft... But the FA signings have really sucked balls... And this year to year, kick the can, band-aid fix for the salary cap has got to be addressed...

12-06-2015, 12:33 AM	#17
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze Originally Posted by Danno Wow, this again? This is probably the best situation we've been in 5 years. Year after year Loomis re-works contracts to get us under the cap and affords us the capability to sign numerous key free agents. Yet year after year people panic. Loomis has this under control. If you doubt it you simply aren't paying attention, or you're dumber than a box of Cam Newtons. Thats why I say the problem isnt so much Loomis. He has always gotten us under the cap and enough under it to sign at least one top teir free agent. Its not his fault those players dont work out as well as planned. If Byrd had come out of the gate screaming and if Unger made a bigger impact we would all be praising him right now. Loomis finds the money, its not his job to figure out who to spend it on. saintfan, Danno and AsylumGuido like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze Originally Posted by jeanpierre Expressing concern over the salary cap is hardly panic; what I'd ask... Have you seen the decline in this team these past five years? Do you think there is no correlation whatsoever?!? I'd like to see Drew return the faith he was shown when first signed with a questionable shoulder and a mid-tier quarterback BEFORE Payton's system... C'mon Drew, be a winner like Brady and be a team player... Brees will restructure an extension basically the same as that of Brady. And Brady was no team player in that deal, either. He got his. Danno and captainshawn like this.

12-06-2015, 10:01 AM	#19
captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze Originally Posted by jeanpierre Buds, 13-3 was more than two years ago, brother... Yeah, I think we finally have had a good draft... But the FA signings have really sucked balls... And this year to year, kick the can, band-aid fix for the salary cap has got to be addressed... 2011 - 13 & 3 2012 - 7 & 9 2013 - 11 & 5 2014 - 7 & 9 2015 - ?

12-06-2015, 01:18 PM	#20
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: New Orleans Saints salary cap squeeze Its not the cap situation that has us in trouble. Its scouting and decisions on personnel. Loomis finds the money, every year and he can keep kicking it down the road and working magic. The problem is what the coaching staff spends that money on. Like I said earlier. He always gets us below the cap with enough left over. Its not his fault it isnt spent right. He will restructure Drew, work some magic and get us under the cap again. We will find a big free agent or two and hope to god there are different people on staff who know how to get the right personnel . The cap doesnt worry me one bit. Byrd, Unger, Browner, Ellerbie were supposed to be upgrades and we got them signed.
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