officiating

SmashMouth · 12-07-2015, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

I refuse to complain. The years when we had a winning record we were one of the least penalized teams in the league. This year, we are 4-8. We're not gonna get the calls. It is what it is. We need to get better.

We still got horrid calls in 2009. It's just that we were good enough then to overcome adversity. To win consistently, one has to commit fewer mistakes in all facets of the game and be good enough to overcome unfair BS officiating.

We got three turnovers against the Panties and still lost. We're simply not good enough. We're in the midst of a rebuild. It may be 2 years minimum before we can get there again. By that time it may be too late for Brees.

Barry from MS · 12-07-2015, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

We still got horrid calls in 2009. It's just that we were good enough then to overcome adversity. To win consistently, one has to commit fewer mistakes in all facets of the game and be good enough to overcome unfair BS officiating.

We got three turnovers against the Panties and still lost. We're simply not good enough. We're in the midst of a rebuild. It may be 2 years minimum before we can get there again. By that time it may be too late for Brees.

Everybody gets those unfair calls. Good teams will get some bad calls, sure. We get undisciplined ones. Unnecessary ones. It's like we've become the NFC's version of the Raiders of a few years back. The refs are looking for them on us now. And we don't get the benefit of some calls against us because of the boneheaded, undisciplined fouls we make. Make sense?

The Dude · 12-07-2015, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

I refuse to complain. The years when we had a winning record we were one of the least penalized teams in the league. This year, we are 4-8. We're not gonna get the calls. It is what it is. We need to get better.

There is a coorilation there. We were the one of the least penalized teams because we were a disciplined team. Not because the refs just looked the other way. Our discipline and cohesiveness are part of what made those years great.

This year we are a sloppy team. No surprise that we suck.
When complaining about the officiating I am not complaining about the calls on us. I am complaining against all the free passes Carolina got. Our team has never had that many free passes.

IM not even really complaining about the officiating as much as I am pointing out that the refs are going to call the games the way the NFL tells them to. You can watch any NFL game between any NFL teams and if there is a good "story" there somewhere you can bet the refs are going to call it to where the outcome is a good storyline.

Beastmode · 12-07-2015, 08:29 AM

NFL is the worst sport for random penalties. Every game there are a lot of moments like, how did they miss that or, really, that's a penalty? Browner though, they get all of his.

Cruize · 12-07-2015, 10:23 AM

Rigged. Stevie Wonder could call a better game.

|Mitch| · 12-07-2015, 11:10 AM

Carolina didn't just have 12 men in the huddle; they had 12 men to start those two plays.

That's why on the first one; they had to call a timeout... And of course, the play is non-reviewable

UK_WhoDat · 12-07-2015, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

No it had nothing to do with why we lost. We lost for a variety of inexcusable reasons. I just have to say how blatent it has gotten. Horrible calls all game against us .....

I agree 100% with this

Rugby Saint II · 12-07-2015, 04:16 PM

I am a rugby referee. Thank God I don't referee football. So much is left to interpretation.

SmashMouth · 12-07-2015, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I am a rugby referee. Thank God I don't referee football. So much is left to interpretation.

vpheughan · 12-07-2015, 06:12 PM

As I've said before. Fan Duel and the like pay out $75 million a week. It would be easier to get to an official than a player. Just look at the crew that was reassigned due to the horrible "job" they did.

12-07-2015, 11:55 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,130 Blog Entries: 29	Re: officiating Originally Posted by Barry from MS I refuse to complain. The years when we had a winning record we were one of the least penalized teams in the league. This year, we are 4-8. We're not gonna get the calls. It is what it is. We need to get better. We still got horrid calls in 2009. It's just that we were good enough then to overcome adversity. To win consistently, one has to commit fewer mistakes in all facets of the game and be good enough to overcome unfair BS officiating. We got three turnovers against the Panties and still lost. We're simply not good enough. We're in the midst of a rebuild. It may be 2 years minimum before we can get there again. By that time it may be too late for Brees.

12-07-2015, 07:51 PM	#2
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: officiating Originally Posted by SmashMouth We still got horrid calls in 2009. It's just that we were good enough then to overcome adversity. To win consistently, one has to commit fewer mistakes in all facets of the game and be good enough to overcome unfair BS officiating. We got three turnovers against the Panties and still lost. We're simply not good enough. We're in the midst of a rebuild. It may be 2 years minimum before we can get there again. By that time it may be too late for Brees. Everybody gets those unfair calls. Good teams will get some bad calls, sure. We get undisciplined ones. Unnecessary ones. It's like we've become the NFC's version of the Raiders of a few years back. The refs are looking for them on us now. And we don't get the benefit of some calls against us because of the boneheaded, undisciplined fouls we make. Make sense?

12-07-2015, 11:39 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: officiating Originally Posted by Barry from MS I refuse to complain. The years when we had a winning record we were one of the least penalized teams in the league. This year, we are 4-8. We're not gonna get the calls. It is what it is. We need to get better. There is a coorilation there. We were the one of the least penalized teams because we were a disciplined team. Not because the refs just looked the other way. Our discipline and cohesiveness are part of what made those years great. This year we are a sloppy team. No surprise that we suck. When complaining about the officiating I am not complaining about the calls on us. I am complaining against all the free passes Carolina got. Our team has never had that many free passes. IM not even really complaining about the officiating as much as I am pointing out that the refs are going to call the games the way the NFL tells them to. You can watch any NFL game between any NFL teams and if there is a good "story" there somewhere you can bet the refs are going to call it to where the outcome is a good storyline. SloMotion and MaggieMayTB like this.
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12-07-2015, 08:29 AM	#4
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: officiating NFL is the worst sport for random penalties. Every game there are a lot of moments like, how did they miss that or, really, that's a penalty? Browner though, they get all of his.
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12-07-2015, 10:23 AM	#5
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12-07-2015, 11:10 AM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: officiating Carolina didn't just have 12 men in the huddle; they had 12 men to start those two plays. That's why on the first one; they had to call a timeout... And of course, the play is non-reviewable

12-07-2015, 01:22 PM	#7
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,005	Re: officiating Originally Posted by The Dude No it had nothing to do with why we lost. We lost for a variety of inexcusable reasons. I just have to say how blatent it has gotten. Horrible calls all game against us ..... I agree 100% with this

12-07-2015, 04:16 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: officiating I am a rugby referee. Thank God I don't referee football. So much is left to interpretation.

12-07-2015, 06:11 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,130 Blog Entries: 29	Re: officiating Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I am a rugby referee. Thank God I don't referee football. So much is left to interpretation.

12-07-2015, 06:12 PM	#10
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,565	Re: officiating As I've said before. Fan Duel and the like pay out $75 million a week. It would be easier to get to an official than a player. Just look at the crew that was reassigned due to the horrible "job" they did. RaginCajun83, SaintsBro and SloMotion like this.
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