Strategy for Remaining Season?
 

Well...

While mathematically still alive, we're done - that's our reality.

Should the Saints start playing rookies, younger players over expensive veterans?

Is it time to go into an evaluation process? See what we have on the roster before the offseason?

I'd like to see Andrus Peat at one of the offensive tackles opposite Armstead...

Also, I'd play Coleman heavy minutes to see if I need two or one add'l wide receivers...

And I'd sit Byrd, let Kenny V show his hand at Free Safety because I'm not sold on him at SS; hell, I don't know that he has the maturity to be on this team...

Wouldn't hurt to see some 3-4 with Edebali opposite Kikaha; let us know if we have options with regards to Cam Jordan should an offer present itself...

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If we are going for the best draft pick, best to have Browner out there as much as possible.

Seriously, I'd say don't be afraid to rest guys if they are a little banged up.

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yea tank it. Play the rest of the season like pre season.

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From here on out I'd like to see Cooks, Coleman & Snead as the big three at WR. Marques is struggling and had another crucial drop ... the time has come to develop young talent and see what's in store for next season.

As far as Kenny V goes ... sorry but the dude can't cover. Either Dennis doesn't know how to use him or Kenny's play has worsened + he has been flagged for stupid personal fouls at the most inopportune time :rolleyes:. I do think we need a premier pass rusher and possibly another Free Safety (maybe Buffalo knew what they were doing). I saw a lot of GRIT from the the defense however upgrades are needed. Giving up 450+ total yards today is not the recipe for winning.

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Yes, tank.

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KV had some boneheaded moments but he was all over the ball and hitting hard. Hes actually had a decent year. I dont think it is personnel in our defensive backfield that is our problem. Aside from Browner that is. Browner has to go and should get the boot tomorrow.

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Browner gotta go, period! No explanation needed

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Vaccaro may be our 3rd or 4th worst player on defense. I'm not impressed at all.

He'd probably be the worst FS in the NFL.

He's a SS, and not a very good one.

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Danno
I remember going back and forth with you over the years about Harper and Jenkins... At this point I must say I was wrong.

Byrd could pan out well if we didn't handicap our coverage to make up for Browner but vaccaro is bad. I never thought Jenkins and Harper were good individually, but they had chemistry together and that really matters.

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Put Grayson in, sit Colston and lets see what Coleman, Snead and Cooks can do as the main guys.

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keep slugging it out. mix and match in the secondary till something works to some degree. Defensive talent depth wise has a long way to go. It will take more than a few years to repair the damage caused by ROB.

Been screaming about Kenny before we drafted him NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :) but since he is here we should take a look at how the cards use Deone Bucannon. third safety in a semi LB roll. Kenny is no Deon but he might work out in the roll.

Draft a true modern day safety!
Jalen Ramsey, S/CB, Florida State, 6005, 202, 4.49

FSU has him at CB and he has shown signs as be just ok in the roll so he should be on the board. I would venture to say he is the best FS/SS hybrid to come out since Deon. Bit since Deon has proven to be the steal of the 2014 NFL draft the price has gone up. He is not as physical but the kid is smart.

CBs for the love of god make one requirement a necessity. Tackling

see off I go wanting to fix it for next year so play them all see what we got.

Oh by the way Senio Kelemete? why the love? he is next on my draft hit list along with Lelito. 2 back up a start does not make.

round 2 OG? round 4 yet another OG?

Right now our best weapon is to keep this defense off the field as much as possible for the next couple of years and keep putting up points.

play them all and pull drew when you really start to get desperately screwy with the line up. we got two backup QBs we can sacrifice for the cause.

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My take on the rest of the season is attempt to win out and finish 8-8. I do agree in order to have a chance at 8-8, it would be a very good idea to try something new in the secondary. I absolutely had enough of Browner and think he should get his release, and pretty much seen enough of Vaccaro to know there is a true draft need for safety going into next year.

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Win every game possible. Go 8-8 if possible. Don't go out a loser and tank the season like so many weird people in this forum want. For what? So we can move up a few spots in the draft? Get real you guys. Only cowards quit. And if this team did that, I'd cease to be a fan. Say all you want, but I'd bury my head in shame if my team did what Tampa did last year.

Really? Tank the season? I love ya'll but some of you make me sick.

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Get Ingram some rest and get Hightower some more action. Don't bring Breaux back unless he's fully healthy. We should keep playing hard and trying to win, but need to balance that with preserving our best players so we have some good things to work with next season.

We obviously are worried about the dead money and may not be able to cut Browner. So we may need to bite the bullet and send Browner plus a draft pick to another team that has the cap space for next to nothing. Essentially give up a draft pick to a team to help us get rid of our problem. Probably can't do it now because of trade deadline. This type of trade has been done in the NBA before, hoping NFL rules will allow it. Nonetheless, Harper should be inactive until we can address it in the offseason.

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'Tank' is no option. However, sending a message into next season for the sorry performers of this 33rd ranked defense, I'd shelf Browner & KVac the rest of the season. No joke, either. I'm done with both of them. Sign some one off the street to play the nickel/dime and let Dixon/Wilson start at corner if Breaux can't go (where is Swann?). That way Browner won't get his bonus money and KVac will get the message that he still stinks.

If we can make one or both inactive, bring DT Mabry back off the practice squad and maybe sign another DT with some meat off another practice squad to help out our D-Line...we are soft and mushy up the middle in the second half of games because we have no depth or no meat in the middle. This is the 2nd reason we are 33rd in defense.

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You play to WIN, every single Sunday.

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Absolutely. I think though, our team honestly gave everything they had yesterday. This loss is gonna linger. IMO we may only win 1 more.

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Strategy for the remaining season: Jacksonville and Detroit -- bring plenty of Maker's Mark in a flask.

Tampa, Atlanta -- I dunno, maybe do some laundry, folding, maybe clean up the house a little bit? Of course I'll still go down to the Dome, when they're there, but this team is so bad I could easily see myself getting some stuff done on the other Sundays for a change. Maybe listen on radio, it's less painful.

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Would be nice to beat the Dirty Birds without Browner on the field.

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-Cut Browner. Major problem and fail all season. Start Dixon. He can't be any worse.
-Put Swann on IR.
-Cut McGlyn, Hunt, Hightower.
-Sign G's Myers (Ravens), and Matias (Titans) to the active roster. They had draft grades and at worst are good camp bodies next year.
-Sign TE O'Leary (Bills) to the active roster. Can't be any wosre than Hill and will be another camp body at a need position.
-Sign WR Hill (Pats) and RB Hillard (Texans) to the active roster. Looking at next season again.
-Grayson needs to play sometime to get live NFL action. Last game. Last two games. Something.

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Or we can play Browner at safety. I think he would do well. Dixon ca. Play corner better.

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Papa,
I hope you are joking. #39 needs to be as far away from a football field as humanly possible. He has turned into a clown. I'm completely baffled at how wide open his assignments are and how many penalties fall on his plate.

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I'm the fan that is already looking to improve this team through the draft by having high draft picks. I don't want to tank it.....but I do want film on our young players. They need playing time to develop and now is the time. However, I am totally in agreement about beefing up the D-line.

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I wish I was joking. Our safeties stink. At least Browner picks off the ball. Vaccaro doesn't do squat. Byrd doesn't do much of anything either.

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Browner has no lateral quickness whatsoever...

...I'd rather see if Kenny V could play Free Safety...

...if he sucks there as well, then you know it's time to move on...

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Drink heavily before and after the game

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I would like to see what the young blood could possibly do. The starter have had clown moments on D all season, why not evaluate what you got. Might find a tucked away spark plug.

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Go 8-8 lol that won't happen we might just might win one more.... I doubt it tho....

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The "T" word!! Really? Oh for shame!!!!!

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Wife got me tickets before the season started to the final game against the Falcons at the 50 yd line, about 6 rows up. The best seats I've ever had by a long shot, and now I'm afraid I won't even get to see the starters play.

How likely is it, or what will it take for them to at least sit Drew Brees?

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I honestly don't believe Sean P will "sit" Brees now that the season (playoff purposes) is over. Would be very surprised if we see Grayson, Flynn etc at all the remainder of the year.

Enjoy those 50 yard line seats :cool:.

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Not happening, dude. Least of your worries. Like down there with global warming and stuff.

Sorry, couldn't resist...;)

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Yeah it's lunacy to think that Brees would ever be benched or satten down.

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We aren't going to tank or sit anyone at all. It will be the same going forward. We might mix a few more reps and snaps for depth guys and hurt guys may get an extra week on the bench but I don't see this organization making obvious sit downs of veterans or shelfing anyone.

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I hope and mostly believe what all of y'all are saying about them not sitting Brees. I'm just worried because I went to see them play @Carolina the Super Bowl year, and they sat Brees because we had our position locked up.

I don't believe that the Saints are the kind of organization to intentionally tank for draft positions. However, if they lose a few before that game, i'm afraid they will sit him for any variation of reasons. Health, see grayson play, etc..

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That's what I said about Grayson.

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Look forward to next season with the hope there will be mega changes. Evaluate what we have by playing players who need the playing time to prove themselves.
One more note. Payton knows how to win, short term. He doesn't know how to sustain it.
I don't think there's a fix for that.

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Evaluate for next year? If the coach and staff get fired it won't matter. New coach, new players!

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Ride out the string, veteran's in, unless they suck then go with the youth movement…ticket holders deserve as much.