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DerrickB 12-09-2015 09:56 PM

Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
1. Connor Cook (Michigan State)
2. Paxton Lynch (Memphis)
3. Jared Goff (CAL)
4. Trevone Boykin (TCU)
5. Kevin Hogan (Stanford)
6. Cardale Jones (Ohio State)
7. Cody Kessler (USC)

VegasSaint9 12-09-2015 10:08 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Im honestly not sure but I think we may draft a QB with our first round pick if Brees gets cut/traded for whatever reason

frydaddy 12-09-2015 10:37 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
I think it's a bad year for QB's in the draft and I wouldn't touch a single one of them within the first 3 rounds. On face value I would take Boykin, but again it would certainly not be early. I don't think it matters anyway. Brees is gonna be here next year for sure and possibly another year or two after. Too many obvious needs on this team to be worrying about life after Brees. Especially when you just drafted a guy with a day 2 pick. What they need to be worried about is rebuilding the team around Drew ASAP so we can make another run or two at a super bowl. If Peyton Manning's half crippled ass can keep leading a team to the playoffs, I have all the faith in the world that Drew can do the same.

SloMotion 12-10-2015 04:55 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
I'm partial to Cook(MSU) and Jones(Ohio) because I've seen a lot of them, but they both got a couple red flags.

Seen scouting reports on Cook(MSU) as a projected third rounder/average NFL QB, but kinda' wonder if he wouldn't turn out a little better given the opportunity to apprentice behind a veteran QB ... you know, like Rodgers did. Probably a bit of a reach, #shrug.

Saint_LB 12-10-2015 05:04 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
What if Chad Kelly decided to enter the draft?

hagan714 12-10-2015 06:29 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DerrickB (Post 684944)
1. Connor Cook (Michigan State)
2. Paxton Lynch (Memphis)
3. Jared Goff (CAL)
4. Trevone Boykin (TCU)
5. Kevin Hogan (Stanford)
6. Cardale Jones (Ohio State)
7. Cody Kessler (USC)

Not one is ready to step in and play right away IMO. But if forced into starting I would bet on Cook.

This is the perfect draft for a team to grab a solid QB and have them sit and learn. the top 3 are all good risks. Still not sold on our pet project from last year.

Kevin Hogan - is my teaser. he finally put together a year stanford was hoping for a while now. but was it a one year wonder thing or has he really turned the corner?

Cody Kessler may end up being the steal of the draft.

Dark horse Dak Prescott just keeps kicking me the head. keep an eye on him

mighty12 12-10-2015 08:39 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU.

The red flags on him are as follows:
No leadership ability
Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag)
Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue)

I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type.

K Major 12-10-2015 09:14 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
I like the big kid from Memphis (Lynch).

Barry from MS 12-10-2015 10:22 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
1. Lynch
2. Goff
These 2 might be starters Day 1, depending on what team they land. They have NFL-caliber qualities, no question.

Hogan, Kessler, Cook, & Prescott could be spot-starters in a few years. I've been more impressed with Hogan & Prescott than Cook over the last 2 years. Boykin...meh...hard to gauge with the defenses he's faced. He's on-the-fence as far as QB's go.

Cardale Jones? Nooooo...his mechanics are horrible and he played, what, 8 games in college? Pass.

QBREES9 12-10-2015 12:25 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Cody Kessler (USC)

hagan714 12-10-2015 12:41 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Cook i like over the others for one big reason. year in and year out when the chips are down he seems to always come through. I really like his mental toughness.

MSU's Connor Cook wins Unitas award as top QB
Spartans' Connor Cook wins Johnny Unitas award as top QB


Michigan State RUMORS: Connor Cook Viewed As Third-Round Pick In 2016 NFL Draft

Michigan State quarterback Connor Cook is one of the most debated prospects in the upcoming 2016 NFL Draft, and one NFC Scout reportedly views him as a third-round pick and believes that he's an average starter in the league at best, according to Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, and Lance Zierlein of College Football 24/7.

Prior to the start of the 2015 college football regular season, Cook was viewed as a top quarterback prospect for the NFL, and some analysts believed he would be the first pick in 2016. Scouts reportedly continue to argue over Cook and where he stands in the upcoming draft, but it's clear that he has fallen down draft boards across the league his senior year.

Cook has had a strong senior year in East Lansing, throwing for 2,921 yards with 24 touchdowns to 5 interceptions. The Spartans quarterback led his team to a Big Ten Championship and a spot in the College Football Playoff. Scouts continue to question Cook's accuracy, as he has dropped in completion percentage his senior season. Cook had a 56.9 completion percentage this season, and against Iowa in the Big Ten Championship game, he completed 50 percent of his passes and failed to throw a touchdown.
Michigan State RUMORS: Connor Cook Viewed As Third-Round Pick In 2016 NFL Draft : Sports : Headlines & Global News

Remember MSU is one of the leaders in dropped passes I know in 2014 they had 66 drops and I think it would be safe to say they are in that category yet again. He comes out of a pro system unlike the others where you are dealing with a spread offense and inflated states. Big ten is old school smash mouth defense and he faced and beat some of the better defenses in the NCAA.

Sitting and learning from Drew and SP would be huge for the kid. besides I would think his perfect match is Cleveland. I have a hard time seeing the other kids surviving Cleavland if playoffs is your goal. Cleveland in Dec and Jan with those lake winds are a killer..

If by chance he is on the board in the third you gotta take him as if lmao

Rugby Saint II 12-10-2015 12:51 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
We need to let Grayson play some this year and decide if he's the future. Pull Drew before he gets hurt and spends all off season in rehab. By the end of the year we should have a much better feel for the QB position.

exiled 12-10-2015 08:11 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Who is the best QB annalist... that is who we need to hire first.

NOLA54 12-10-2015 08:26 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Why would we draft a QB?

The Dude 12-10-2015 10:00 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 684945)
Im honestly not sure but I think we may draft a QB with our first round pick if Brees gets cut/traded for whatever reason

I wouldnt see any other option if Brees is gone. You have to draft one then. extend Brees' contract and get a star receiver in the first. 2017 draft class should be better. Call me crazy but I really like Chad Kelly. Reminds me of Aaron Rodgers.

Well I suppose we could use Luke for a year or two while Grayson develops. Hell even Matt Flynn could be good in the right offense. He was money when Rodgers went down a couple years back. Dont really think he is someone you want to make your franchise guy

SloMotion 12-11-2015 05:49 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 685047)
... Dont really think he is someone you want to make your franchise guy

Agree. I'm not knocking Flynn, but at best, he's a backup QB ... guy gets more mileage outta' one good performance vs the Lions (480yds/6TD's) than anyone I've ever seen, :lol:.

hagan714 12-11-2015 06:03 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 684982)
We need to let Grayson play some this year and decide if he's the future. Pull Drew before he gets hurt and spends all off season in rehab. By the end of the year we should have a much better feel for the QB position.

so throw in the towel and tank the rest of the season in order to see what we have going into the 2016 off season?

not saying it would be a bad idea

lets see feel that one out after tampa

But, rest Drew up to slap the falcons at the end the season. A plus side for the saints nation would be a must.

SaintsBro 12-11-2015 07:47 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Why do people keep repeatedly thinking, or asking, that Brees is somehow going to sit? Do we have posters in Alaska, Colorado, Oregon and Washington, cough cough? Are ya'll imbibing too much holiday eggnog?

There is NO WAY that Drew will be "resting up" so we can "see what Grayson" or any other QB in the universe has. That's what the PRESEASON is for. There are four of those games NEXT YEAR.

Don't forget, people pay money to see these games. People hold these things called SEASON TICKETS that cost money, and the people who pay for those, buy other stuff like beers and nachos and jerseys and whatever else. They are PAYING TO SEE BREES. Benson is paying the guy wearing #9 to play, and paying the guy wearing the visor $8 million a year, to coach him. All the way down to Benson paying the guy who paints the white lines on the field, they are paying him to paint them there, so that DREW BREES can play on them...

Resting the starters if you've locked up the division is one thing, especially in a road game (like Carolina in 2009), but resting Drew is NOT HAPPENING. Not unless he gets HURT.

And even then, who is it we're talking about here? Drew "never let your backup see the field" Brees, who played most of a whole season one year with a sprained MCL, that was later revealed to be way worse than anybody knew!

Again -- Grayson or Flynn or Billy Joe or Billy Kilmer or anybody else -- is simply NOT GOING TO BE HAPPENING until August of next year, unless Brees somehow gets hurt.

Rugby Saint II 12-11-2015 11:08 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 685071)
Why do people keep repeatedly thinking, or asking, that Brees is somehow going to sit? Do we have posters in Alaska, Colorado, Oregon and Washington, cough cough? Are ya'll imbibing too much holiday eggnog?

There is NO WAY that Drew will be "resting up" so we can "see what Grayson" or any other QB in the universe has. That's what the PRESEASON is for. There are four of those games NEXT YEAR.

Don't forget, people pay money to see these games. People hold these things called SEASON TICKETS that cost money, and the people who pay for those, buy other stuff like beers and nachos and jerseys and whatever else. They are PAYING TO SEE BREES. Benson is paying the guy wearing #9 to play, and paying the guy wearing the visor $8 million a year, to coach him. All the way down to Benson paying the guy who paints the white lines on the field, they are paying him to paint them there, so that DREW BREES can play on them...

Resting the starters if you've locked up the division is one thing, especially in a road game (like Carolina in 2009), but resting Drew is NOT HAPPENING. Not unless he gets HURT.

And even then, who is it we're talking about here? Drew "never let your backup see the field" Brees, who played most of a whole season one year with a sprained MCL, that was later revealed to be way worse than anybody knew!

Again -- Grayson or Flynn or Billy Joe or Billy Kilmer or anybody else -- is simply NOT GOING TO BE HAPPENING until August of next year, unless Brees somehow gets hurt.



If we leave Drew out there with this O-line and he may very well spend all off season in rehab. Oh, and I know Drew never wants his backup to see the field but he also needs to understand that he is the future and we don't want him hurt.

jeanpierre 12-11-2015 04:30 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
And with their third round selection the New Orleans Saints select...

'Quarterback Kevin Hogan, Stanford'

He might be there in the early fourth round, but the heart (and arm) he showed in beating Notre Dame...

...well, he may just be our guy.

halloween 65 12-11-2015 05:22 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 684946)
I think it's a bad year for QB's in the draft and I wouldn't touch a single one of them within the first 3 rounds. On face value I would take Boykin, but again it would certainly not be early. I don't think it matters anyway. Brees is gonna be here next year for sure and possibly another year or two after. Too many obvious needs on this team to be worrying about life after Brees. Especially when you just drafted a guy with a day 2 pick. What they need to be worried about is rebuilding the team around Drew ASAP so we can make another run or two at a super bowl. If Peyton Manning's half crippled ass can keep leading a team to the playoffs, I have all the faith in the world that Drew can do the same.

Payton Manning has a D behind him, Brees don't.

WillSaints81 12-11-2015 05:39 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 684946)
I think it's a bad year for QB's in the draft and I wouldn't touch a single one of them within the first 3 rounds. On face value I would take Boykin, but again it would certainly not be early. I don't think it matters anyway. Brees is gonna be here next year for sure and possibly another year or two after. Too many obvious needs on this team to be worrying about life after Brees. Especially when you just drafted a guy with a day 2 pick. What they need to be worried about is rebuilding the team around Drew ASAP so we can make another run or two at a super bowl. If Peyton Manning's half crippled ass can keep leading a team to the playoffs, I have all the faith in the world that Drew can do the same.

Tell that to Indy and KC who exposed that. Manning was beating Baltimore, KC, Detroit, Minneota, Oakland, Cleveland, GB[with a banged up offense] none of those teams are elite either. KC got them the second time though.

And our defense is nowhere close to being anything like Denver. We were not this in 09, and it's honestly asking too much for a defense we haven't has in a long time.

And you basically saying you want the saints to contend when Brees is on the decline is atrocious. Do you want Brees to lose in the playoffs like Brett Favre did when he was on his last legs?

WillSaints81 12-11-2015 05:42 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 684956)
Not one is ready to step in and play right away IMO. But if forced into starting I would bet on Cook.

This is the perfect draft for a team to grab a solid QB and have them sit and learn. the top 3 are all good risks. Still not sold on our pet project from last year.

Kevin Hogan - is my teaser. he finally put together a year stanford was hoping for a while now. but was it a one year wonder thing or has he really turned the corner?

Cody Kessler may end up being the steal of the draft.

Dark horse Dak Prescott just keeps kicking me the head. keep an eye on him

Look who he plays for. No thank you.

WillSaints81 12-11-2015 05:45 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mighty12 (Post 684963)
Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU.

The red flags on him are as follows:
No leadership ability
Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag)
Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue)

I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type.


Maturity, is close with Bryce, who we should have drafted. WE can't have a kid starting for us when Drew is done.

SloMotion 12-11-2015 07:13 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mighty12 (Post 684963)
Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU.

The red flags on him are as follows:
No leadership ability
Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag)
Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue)

I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type.

You probably need to see more than two games to truly appreciate him, IMO. I'm not an Michigan State fan, but I'll give Connor his props. He's something like 38-4 as a starter and probably MSU's most winningest QB, among other school records. BigTen MVP twice, et ... You don't become that by managing games, #shrug. He's a winner/competitor, he shows up for the big games and makes the big plays. He can throw the ball.

Who cares if his teammates didn't vote him captain? Popularity contest, #shrug. There isn't a police incident file on him. He's never stood on a table shouting obscenities, stolen groceries or allegedly done anything that could be construed as inappropriate to a young lady, #shrug.

He's taken his teams to the Rose Bowl, got 'em a couple BigTen Championships and into the BCS a couple times ... plenty of leadership, IMO. As much as any other college QB.

Barry from MS 12-11-2015 08:35 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 685102)
And with their third round selection the New Orleans Saints select...

Kevin Hogan, Standford

He might be there in the early fourth round, but the heart (and arm) he showed in beating Notre Dame...

...well, he may just be our guy.

That pick in the 4th would be sweet, no question. I'm in the "hoarding-big-uglies-1st-through-3rd-rounds' club this go around.

vpheughan 12-12-2015 01:44 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
That's easy! The one not picked by the Saints!!!

vpheughan 12-12-2015 01:50 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Connor Cook broke records set by Kirk Cousins and Drew Stanton!! That's all I need to hear!!!

voodooido 12-13-2015 08:36 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Drew is the best QB for us in 2016 and 2017. He will fix his contract to allow signings for one last SB push. No way any QB coming in would be better than Brees.

voodooido 12-13-2015 08:50 AM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DerrickB (Post 684944)
1. Connor Cook (Michigan State)
2. Paxton Lynch (Memphis)
3. Jared Goff (CAL)
4. Trevone Boykin (TCU)
5. Kevin Hogan (Stanford)
6. Cardale Jones (Ohio State)
7. Cody Kessler (USC)

Jones is trash. Barrett is much better. Boykin won't play QB in the pros. Carson Wentz from ND State and Brandon Doughty from Western Kentucky will be there in the 4th or 5th and will compete in 2018 with GG. Until then Brees is our QB. If they have a brain fart and get rid of Drew then they better draft Paxton Lynch. He would be the only one I see coming in right away and making any impact.

clintonrebel 12-13-2015 02:42 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
QB is not a need. Heck McCown is a better short term option than anybody in the draft. We need one good OL pick and a bunch of secondary players. We need raw athletic coachable talent in the defensive secondary.

jeanpierre 12-14-2015 06:44 PM

Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clintonrebel (Post 685329)
QB is not a need...

Brees is nearly done and his contract number may conclude that fact...

We need a quarterback and I'd sure like to have another to compete against the boy wonder...


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