Sean

Rugby Saint II · 12-22-2015, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I think Sean will be back, along with most of the current coaching staff. I do believe at this point the guy is probably burned out and really needs this season to end.

I love Sean but his drinking buddies have got to go. WE NEED new pesonnel with a fresh perspective. McMahon, Vitt and the D-line coach have to go!

I'm on Sean Payton's bandwagon until the wheels fall off and we're dragging the wagon leaving deep groves in the road. If the horses die then they can hitch me up to the wagon and I'll pull it by myself. I'm in this for the duration of the ride. It's been one hell of a ride so far and I'm looking forward to the rest off this journey. Not only that I had to learn how to spell his name correctly. It's Sean Payton. Not Shawn Peyton.

So, no way in Hell do I want Sean anywhere besides New Orleans!

Besides, with all the fair weather fans jumping off the wagon I've got more elbow room for drinking with true Who Dats!

WillSaints81 · 12-22-2015, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

ok what did SP do wrong? offense puts up the points and is always rated high yet because the defense can not stop a blind three legged monkey we are booting him?

Rob is gone. huge start

2017 baby. 2017

Offense did nothing first half. Wait are you of the mindset that it's natural because of the offense scoring 6 in the sb first half?

We need oline protection and a receiver who can bail Cooks out when he' facing peterson or Norman. And next year Talib, Sherman, Jenkins, Carr additionally.

hagan714 · 12-22-2015, 09:59 PM

sorry I can not hang the offensive issues on SP. Two years straight everyone got what they wanted and the saints went defense in the draft and free agency. SP did not apply the defensive philosophy to players the saints added over that time. That was Robs brain child.

Unlike the many games we have seen from the saints under Rob the saints no longer give up.

SP biggest mistake was letting ROB go after the players that Rob said would make his defense work. Failed plan and simple.

No I can not hang a coach that has the ability to take an offense year in and year out that ranks at or near elite levels. I just can not do it.

Yell about the people he has put faith into? sure been doing that since before the ink dried on Robs contract.

As an offensive coach that excels in half time adjustments? nope

lets see if DA gets the job as DC. So far DA has made adjustments on the fly with a very thin selection of players and for the most part is doing a better job coaching than Rob.

i am 100% behind the man. still.

RaginCajun83 · 12-22-2015, 10:05 PM

So who's going to replace him? No way Saban leaves Alabama, he's gets his pick of 5* recruits every year and only loses a game or two a season while being paid like a Saudi prince.

I could see Payton here next season but if this ship keeps sinking then I doubt he sees 2017 with the Saints. Another thing, he might want to sober up before talking to a national reporter on ESPN. Dude looked and sounded like he had just got off the plane from a three day bender last night and drove to the Superdome

bobdog86 · 12-22-2015, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I love Sean but his drinking buddies have got to go. WE NEED new pesonnel with a fresh perspective. McMahon, Vitt and the D-line coach have to go!

I'm on Sean Payton's bandwagon until the wheels fall off and we're dragging the wagon leaving deep groves in the road. If the horses die then they can hitch me up to the wagon and I'll pull it by myself. I'm in this for the duration of the ride. It's been one hell of a ride so far and I'm looking forward to the rest off this journey. Not only that I had to learn how to spell his name correctly. It's Sean Payton. Not Shawn Peyton.

So, no way in Hell do I want Sean anywhere besides New Orleans!

Besides, with all the fair weather fans jumping off the wagon I've got more elbow room for drinking with true Who Dats!

Cheers to you my good man……to hear someone ***** about riding the coat tails of our super bowl success sure as hell must not remember the 40 years prior to…….complete lunacy!

The Dude · 12-22-2015, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Offense did nothing first half. Wait are you of the mindset that it's natural because of the offense scoring 6 in the sb first half?

We need oline protection and a receiver who can bail Cooks out when he' facing peterson or Norman. And next year Talib, Sherman, Jenkins, Carr additionally.

Yep, receiver first then one or two on Oline. Put in a pass rusher next to Jordan and we have a team. With Cooks, Snead, and a Laquan Treadwell type draft pick Brees can play 3 more years if he has a half decent Oline in front of him. I imagine we will address TE at some point too. Not much left there after Watson.

NOLA54 · 12-22-2015, 11:12 PM

Sean stays if he gives the playing calling duties to Carmichael & allows Dennis Allen to choose is own coaching staff.

lee909 · 12-23-2015, 02:15 AM

I dont get this give the playcalling to Carmichael. He didn't pull up any trees the year Payton was out. It was the same predictable plays as always.

Oh and before anyone starts with the "we have one of the highest rated offenses" runbish. Thats yards per game. They dont win you games,points do and not regularly going 3 snd out.

Its easy to pile up yards when you start every drive on the 20 because your defense has more holes than a sieve

jnormand · 12-23-2015, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Are you guys kidding? Do you even remember life before we had Payton and Brees? We were not even a competitive team for 90% of this history of this team prior to them. Be scared of the day we don't have them any more and we are back to life like the Browns.

As much as I appreciate we are on the decline I am not eager to fall off the cliff.

Nice to see I'm not the only one who sees logic here. People complain all the time about wanting to can him. I have memories when a 6-10 season was actually a "good season" for the Saints. I hope he stays and makes everyone eat crow.

spkb25 · 12-23-2015, 05:32 AM

gents, we have 5 wins

12-22-2015, 06:27 PM	#21
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Sean Originally Posted by MatthewT I think Sean will be back, along with most of the current coaching staff. I do believe at this point the guy is probably burned out and really needs this season to end. I love Sean but his drinking buddies have got to go. WE NEED new pesonnel with a fresh perspective. McMahon, Vitt and the D-line coach have to go! I'm on Sean Payton's bandwagon until the wheels fall off and we're dragging the wagon leaving deep groves in the road. If the horses die then they can hitch me up to the wagon and I'll pull it by myself. I'm in this for the duration of the ride. It's been one hell of a ride so far and I'm looking forward to the rest off this journey. Not only that I had to learn how to spell his name correctly. It's Sean Payton. Not Shawn Peyton. So, no way in Hell do I want Sean anywhere besides New Orleans! Besides, with all the fair weather fans jumping off the wagon I've got more elbow room for drinking with true Who Dats! SloMotion, bobdog86, darksoul35 and 1 others like this.
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12-22-2015, 06:49 PM	#22
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Sean Originally Posted by hagan714 ok what did SP do wrong? offense puts up the points and is always rated high yet because the defense can not stop a blind three legged monkey we are booting him? Rob is gone. huge start 2017 baby. 2017 Offense did nothing first half. Wait are you of the mindset that it's natural because of the offense scoring 6 in the sb first half? We need oline protection and a receiver who can bail Cooks out when he' facing peterson or Norman. And next year Talib, Sherman, Jenkins, Carr additionally. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-22-2015, 09:59 PM	#23
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sean sorry I can not hang the offensive issues on SP. Two years straight everyone got what they wanted and the saints went defense in the draft and free agency. SP did not apply the defensive philosophy to players the saints added over that time. That was Robs brain child. Unlike the many games we have seen from the saints under Rob the saints no longer give up. SP biggest mistake was letting ROB go after the players that Rob said would make his defense work. Failed plan and simple. No I can not hang a coach that has the ability to take an offense year in and year out that ranks at or near elite levels. I just can not do it. Yell about the people he has put faith into? sure been doing that since before the ink dried on Robs contract. As an offensive coach that excels in half time adjustments? nope lets see if DA gets the job as DC. So far DA has made adjustments on the fly with a very thin selection of players and for the most part is doing a better job coaching than Rob. i am 100% behind the man. still. jnormand likes this.
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12-22-2015, 10:05 PM	#24
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Sean So who's going to replace him? No way Saban leaves Alabama, he's gets his pick of 5* recruits every year and only loses a game or two a season while being paid like a Saudi prince. I could see Payton here next season but if this ship keeps sinking then I doubt he sees 2017 with the Saints. Another thing, he might want to sober up before talking to a national reporter on ESPN. Dude looked and sounded like he had just got off the plane from a three day bender last night and drove to the Superdome

12-22-2015, 10:36 PM	#25
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,406	Re: Sean Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I love Sean but his drinking buddies have got to go. WE NEED new pesonnel with a fresh perspective. McMahon, Vitt and the D-line coach have to go! I'm on Sean Payton's bandwagon until the wheels fall off and we're dragging the wagon leaving deep groves in the road. If the horses die then they can hitch me up to the wagon and I'll pull it by myself. I'm in this for the duration of the ride. It's been one hell of a ride so far and I'm looking forward to the rest off this journey. Not only that I had to learn how to spell his name correctly. It's Sean Payton. Not Shawn Peyton. So, no way in Hell do I want Sean anywhere besides New Orleans! Besides, with all the fair weather fans jumping off the wagon I've got more elbow room for drinking with true Who Dats! Cheers to you my good man……to hear someone ***** about riding the coat tails of our super bowl success sure as hell must not remember the 40 years prior to…….complete lunacy! Rugby Saint II and SloMotion like this.

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12-22-2015, 10:39 PM	#26
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Sean Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Offense did nothing first half. Wait are you of the mindset that it's natural because of the offense scoring 6 in the sb first half? We need oline protection and a receiver who can bail Cooks out when he' facing peterson or Norman. And next year Talib, Sherman, Jenkins, Carr additionally. Yep, receiver first then one or two on Oline. Put in a pass rusher next to Jordan and we have a team. With Cooks, Snead, and a Laquan Treadwell type draft pick Brees can play 3 more years if he has a half decent Oline in front of him. I imagine we will address TE at some point too. Not much left there after Watson. SloMotion likes this.
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12-22-2015, 11:12 PM	#27
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean Sean stays if he gives the playing calling duties to Carmichael & allows Dennis Allen to choose is own coaching staff.

12-23-2015, 02:15 AM	#28
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean I dont get this give the playcalling to Carmichael. He didn't pull up any trees the year Payton was out. It was the same predictable plays as always. Oh and before anyone starts with the "we have one of the highest rated offenses" runbish. Thats yards per game. They dont win you games,points do and not regularly going 3 snd out. Its easy to pile up yards when you start every drive on the 20 because your defense has more holes than a sieve

12-23-2015, 03:32 AM	#29
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Sean Originally Posted by lumm0x Are you guys kidding? Do you even remember life before we had Payton and Brees? We were not even a competitive team for 90% of this history of this team prior to them. Be scared of the day we don't have them any more and we are back to life like the Browns. As much as I appreciate we are on the decline I am not eager to fall off the cliff. Nice to see I'm not the only one who sees logic here. People complain all the time about wanting to can him. I have memories when a 6-10 season was actually a "good season" for the Saints. I hope he stays and makes everyone eat crow. foreverfan, SloMotion and bobdog86 like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Sean gents, we have 5 wins

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