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halloween 65 12-23-2015 02:27 PM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 686785)
We don't need that much, and what we do need won't cost a fortune.

OG's are typically cheap FA's and middle round draft prospects.
Solid DT's can be had in the 1st 3 rounds.

The toughest task will be a pass rusher and a starting WR.

Between the Draft and Free Agency, we'll address every need with at least an adequate player.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Ireland's influence helps this years draft.

Not the beat draft for DT's. A 3-4 I go with Jenkins and Davidson at NT and draft a 3-4 DE(good ones this year) and OLB( good ones this year also) and sliding Ellerbe in the middle with Anthony(watch the INT's go up with that combo) to shore up the gaping hole in the middle and both can blitz at will. The secondary will be fine with PJ, Lewis and Sunseri coming back Byrd will take care of that. Trade Jordan, Vaccarro, and see if Bush could play a true SS and if not trade him and aquire one in FA. And don't overlook the lb. we stole from Houston( he's good) Totally agree about G and I will add T and TE. The rest should be for solid rotation.

spkb25 12-23-2015 02:38 PM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
i agree with this article

WillSaints81 12-23-2015 04:32 PM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 686786)
Not the beat draft for DT's. A 3-4 I go with Jenkins and Davidson at NT and draft a 3-4 DE(good ones this year) and OLB( good ones this year also) and sliding Ellerbe in the middle with Anthony(watch the INT's go up with that combo) to shore up the gaping hole in the middle and both can blitz at will. The secondary will be fine with PJ, Lewis and Sunseri coming back Byrd will take care of that. Trade Jordan, Vaccarro, and see if Bush could play a true SS and if not trade him and aquire one in FA. And don't overlook the lb. we stole from Houston( he's good) Totally agree about G and I will add T and TE. The rest should be for solid rotation.

We let that Houston guy go. I thought we did.

We need to fix the offense and the defense will play better well rested with the help of a pass rusher.

We need a Martavis Bryant to counter Cooks. Is Cooks a traditional number 1 receiver though? His size will hurt him in certain games.

Tobias-Reiper 12-23-2015 04:56 PM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
At least the article was posted on the website, so ink and paper weren't wasted. If we are talking needs:

Offense, what it really needs:
1. Guards
2. Less predictable play calling/faster developing plays

Defense:
1. Remove Browner
2. A bona fide tackle
2. Get Jim Schwartz and let him pick his staff.



Both could use some backups.

darksoul35 12-23-2015 07:30 PM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
I think we are good at corner assuming Lewis gets back to his old self. We need a DT and with a year under his belt we are set at MLB. We need a OG for sure and I may be in the minority but I want Juicy fruit back and hopefully Brees gives a discount. I hope we take a pass rusher in the first round and we will go back to the Super Bowl.

ChrisXVI 12-23-2015 07:35 PM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
Gotta land Andrew Billings in the first round... That'll help solve some problems.

SloMotion 12-24-2015 04:03 AM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 686802)
At least the article was posted on the website, so ink and paper weren't wasted. If we are talking needs:

Offense, what it really needs:
1. Guards
2. Less predictable play calling/faster developing plays

Defense:
1. Remove Browner
2. A bona fide tackle
2. Get Jim Schwartz and let him pick his staff.



Both could use some backups.

That's the second time I've seen Jim Schwartz mentioned on here ... are you sure? He gets a little loopy at times, ie Gregg Williams style, and lost the team in Detroit with some of his shenanigans ... though they did display a more focused, motivated style of play then they do currently ... he was a pretty good D/C in TEN and BUF, #shrug.

jeanpierre 12-24-2015 04:08 AM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
Detroit's No. 53 makes my NFL All-time Names Team...even if it is a special teamer...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 686556)


SaintsBro 12-24-2015 08:45 AM

Re: Saints have more problems than 2016 draft can fix
 
Like Jason David, and like the situation a few years ago with a certain quarterback and coach who simply had to go, in order for the team to ever improve, I think it all starts with getting rid of Browner. That alone will kickstart the process. If they got rid of Browner, I think people here would be surprised, at how much improvement that move alone could make on the defense. Without the penalties, first downs and yards that he has given up single-handedly, the Saints would actually be in the mid-20s as a defensive rank right now! He gives up crucial first downs, that extend drives and then result in scores: if you take even just one or two of those scores/drives away, if you stall those drives, then almost ALL these games are completely different in character. He's a cancer. He is single handedly affecting the outcome of these games, and quite honestly I wouldn't be surprised at all if we found out down the line someday, that he was somehow influencing them through gambling or by affecting fantasy league betting or changing point spreads or something, like the point shaving scandal at Tulane or the fixing the 1919 World Series. I would not be surprised or shocked if that were true!

For me it all starts with getting rid of Browner. Same way the Saints went through a bad spell with Jason David, and once he was eliminated from the roster, the team actually kinda took off and soared, it was like a weight had been lifted from their collective shoulders. I'm over simplifying, of course, but everything truly starts with that move. Browner being on the next train out of town after the Falcons game, will give me hope for next year.

Seer1 12-24-2015 08:51 AM

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Can you draft coaches?


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