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SmashMouth 12-22-2015 08:55 AM

Andrus Peat, Hau'oli Kikaha see snap counts drop in Saints' loss vs. Lions
 
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The lack of snaps for two of the New Orleans Saints' top three 2015 NFL draft picks stood out most from the team's 35-27 loss to Detroit on Monday.
Defensively, linebacker Hau'oli Kikaha didn't play much at all with the Saints playing a slew of nickel defensive snaps. The second-round pick only took 10 defensive snaps (19 percent) in the Lions loss.

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Kikaha's role has changed since defensive coordinator Dennis Allen took over the unit after Week 10. Yet Kikaha created the only takeaway of the game with a forced fumble and recovery on the Lions' Ameer Abdullah.

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Euphoria 12-22-2015 09:00 AM

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Give them something to motivate them in the off season...

SaintsBro 12-22-2015 09:02 AM

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I think this is part of Payton's way of tanking without *really* tanking.

lumm0x 12-22-2015 09:54 AM

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And Kikaha still had a forced and recovered fumble in the game. This guy does need to learn still but there is no question he is a football player with a nose for big plays.

ChrisXVI 12-22-2015 11:33 AM

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No idea why we've stopped using Kikaha as a DE. Seems to me that his best role would be nickel and dime DE.

Rugby Saint II 12-22-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 686568)
I think this is part of Payton's way of tanking without *really* tanking.

Game Film Baby! All of our rookies need it. Not just Kikaha. We need to evaluate our roster again this offseason and I fully expect to see another large roster turn over this year. Bring up some more folks from the PS and IR anyone with a hang nail. I want the energy that these young bucks bring to the game even though they will make mistakes there will be teachable moments.

Monday nights snap count was spread around a lot more than usual and our other rookies got valuable playing time while still fielding a competitive team. Davison played a larger part of the game plan than usual as did several other young players who performed fairly well.:bng:

halloween 65 12-22-2015 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 686610)
Game Film Baby! All of our rookies need it. Not just Kikaha. We need to evaluate our roster again this offseason and I fully expect to see another large roster turn over this year. Bring up some more folks from the PS and IR anyone with a hang nail. I want the energy that these young bucks bring to the game even though they will make mistakes there will be teachable moments.

Monday nights snap count was spread around a lot more than usual and our other rookies got valuable playing time while still fielding a competitive team. Davison played a larger part of the game plan than usual as did several other young players who performed fairly well.:bng:

I thought Davidson shot the gap really well. Ediboli made some plays.

hagan714 12-22-2015 02:19 PM

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why drive them into the ground? time to see what the bench can offer in building a rotation for the future

WillSaints81 12-22-2015 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 686610)
Game Film Baby! All of our rookies need it. Not just Kikaha. We need to evaluate our roster again this offseason and I fully expect to see another large roster turn over this year. Bring up some more folks from the PS and IR anyone with a hang nail. I want the energy that these young bucks bring to the game even though they will make mistakes there will be teachable moments.

Monday nights snap count was spread around a lot more than usual and our other rookies got valuable playing time while still fielding a competitive team. Davison played a larger part of the game plan than usual as did several other young players who performed fairly well.:bng:

What do you mean game film? Are you saying it was smart to hold off Kikhaha?

WillSaints81 12-22-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 686610)
Game Film Baby! All of our rookies need it. Not just Kikaha. We need to evaluate our roster again this offseason and I fully expect to see another large roster turn over this year. Bring up some more folks from the PS and IR anyone with a hang nail. I want the energy that these young bucks bring to the game even though they will make mistakes there will be teachable moments.

Monday nights snap count was spread around a lot more than usual and our other rookies got valuable playing time while still fielding a competitive team. Davison played a larger part of the game plan than usual as did several other young players who performed fairly well.:bng:

What do you mean game film? Are you saying it was smart to hold off Kikhaha?

nola_swammi 12-23-2015 02:08 AM

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We about to see a repeat of the bucs and saints with role reversal on how to throw a game. It wouldn't surprise me one bit that drew sit out the remaining two games cause the strategy will be to lose but don't look like you threw in the towel

Rugby Saint II 12-23-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 686677)
What do you mean game film? Are you saying it was smart to hold off Kikhaha?

Yes. Yes I am. :bng:

WillSaints81 12-23-2015 04:23 PM

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That makes little sense because Ocs already have enough film on him.

bobdog86 12-23-2015 09:46 PM

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Not many of us know the entire story as to why playing time, rep counts are down for certain players, always more to the story than what we hear, or know. Could be film, could be technique, maybe they aren't picking up the formations, calls. I do see bright futures for both though.

brees84 12-24-2015 11:56 AM

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K Major 12-24-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 686865)

Not good. Peat really needs to get his footwork together this off season. Looks really slow out there.

Danno 12-24-2015 05:07 PM

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Sean Payton said he made call to yank Andrus Peat in 2nd quarter after some misses on protection.
So he missed on protections?


Lets recap

He's never played OG.
He's played nothing but LT until he went pro.
He's a rookie.

What exactly are we blasting the kid for?

The reason they tried him at OG to start with is because our OG's freaking suck.

ChrisXVI 12-24-2015 05:11 PM

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Peat has been playing out of position like Danno said. Lelito looks great at right guard and Peat will develop next offseason into a good right tackle. Only hole we'll have is left guard.

44Champs 12-24-2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 686890)
Peat has been playing out of position like Danno said. Lelito looks great at right guard and Peat will develop next offseason into a good right tackle. Only hole we'll have is left guard.

Need to start looking for an RG too.

Edit: nvrmind - misread your post. We're in the same page[emoji1]

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MatthewT 12-25-2015 06:48 AM

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I agree that Peat being out of position has hurt him, but his overall slowness is a major red flag. We shall see, hopefully he is looking slow because he is thinking too much right now. ???


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