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WhoDat!656 12-24-2015 07:25 PM

Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Ironic that the Saints will sit the player, even injured, that gives them the best chance to win, and will play the player, uninjured, that gives them the best chance to lose!

According to ESPN, Brees has a torn plantar fascia in his right foot, which affects the quarterback’s ability to push off while he throws.

A similar injury has sidelined Peyton Manning for the past five weeks.

Before this season, Brees had never missed a game for injury, according to ESPN, but he sat out Week 3 with a shoulder problem.

Via ESPN, here’s what Saints coach Sean Payton had to say about Brees’ injury:


“We’re kind of taking it day by day. I know he’s had it looked at, he’s had an MRI. I think each day we’ll gather more information and have a better idea of where he’s gonna be as it pertains to playing in this game or not.”

Maybe Brees is trying to play through his injury out of pride, but it seems like with the Saints out of the playoff picture he should sit down and let rookie Garrett Grayson, a third-round pick, get a few reps over the final two weeks. It’s not like Brees has anything to prove to anyone. Just start the offseason a bit early and get ready to bounce back next year.

The Saints close the season against the Jaguars at home and then against the Falcons in Atlanta. If he sits, I imagine Saints fans will understand although I’m not sure fantasy owners will.

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bobdog86 12-24-2015 09:22 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Cool, glad he's gonna give it a go. Don't care he's the sacred cow, if he wants to give it a go, then by all means do it. Thats what team mates like to see..Some people are saying he's only doing it for the stats, and some say we should shut him down, but I say go for it. Leader's lead, in this day and age of candy ass sissies and prema donnas I think it's refreshing.

WhoDat!656 12-24-2015 10:40 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 686909)
Cool, glad he's gonna give it a go. Don't care he's the sacred cow, if he wants to give it a go, then by all means do it. Thats what team mates like to see..Some people are saying he's only doing it for the stats, and some say we should shut him down, but I say go for it. Leader's lead, in this day and age of candy ass sissies and prema donnas I think it's refreshing.

And what if he aggravates the injury playing in 2 meaningless games?

Might as well find out what we have in Flynn and Garrett

bobdog86 12-25-2015 12:18 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
I That plantar fascia crap is a painful bi**h, I'm sure he will be under a microscope. If he can't go, he can't go, at least our leader is giving it everything he's got. Would you want someone like Cutler? I'm sure if can't go, or doesn't finish this game he'd be out for the final game. Flynn will only be here for two more weeks, face it, he's a career backup. GG should get the start before Flynn and I am all for it, yes I'd like to see what he's got. But I like the grit and competitive fire from #9.

WhoDat!656 12-25-2015 05:31 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 686922)
I That plantar fascia crap is a painful bi**h, I'm sure he will be under a microscope. If he can't go, he can't go, at least our leader is giving it everything he's got. Would you want someone like Cutler? I'm sure if can't go, or doesn't finish this game he'd be out for the final game. Flynn will only be here for two more weeks, face it, he's a career backup. GG should get the start before Flynn and I am all for it, yes I'd like to see what he's got. But I like the grit and competitive fire from #9.

This is Week 14 and the Saints are currently 5-9; if this were Week 4 I would also be glad that Brees was willing to play through the pain.

MatthewT 12-25-2015 06:53 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Awesome, Brees is going to play. Now that is established please put this man on injured reserve and call it a year, there is NO reason to put him out there.

hagan714 12-25-2015 10:05 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
drew not fighting to play would be weird

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-25-2015 12:30 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 686922)
I That plantar fascia crap is a painful bi**h, I'm sure he will be under a microscope. If he can't go, he can't go, at least our leader is giving it everything he's got. Would you want someone like Cutler? I'm sure if can't go, or doesn't finish this game he'd be out for the final game. Flynn will only be here for two more weeks, face it, he's a career backup. GG should get the start before Flynn and I am all for it, yes I'd like to see what he's got. But I like the grit and competitive fire from #9.

What exactly does a SuperBowl winning and eventual HOF QB have to prove to anyone other than himself? There's a fine line between competitive fire and reckless stupidity. They are two sides of the same coin. Brees is willing to flip that coin. The Saints organization should not follow his lead. Brees should be inactive for the last two games at worst and put on IR at best.

As WhoDat656 has already pointed out, the games are meaningless. So running Brees out there is reckless stupidity.

We've already seen this happen this season. Brees should not have been out there for the 2nd half of the Bucs game at home.

Let's not make that same mistake again. The next meaningful game for the Saints is in September of 2016. Let Brees get healed up and get ready for that game.

SFIAH

foreverfan 12-25-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 686954)
What exactly does a SuperBowl winning and eventual HOF QB have to prove to anyone other than himself? There's a fine line between competitive fire and reckless stupidity. They are two sides of the same coin. Brees is willing to flip that coin. The Saints organization should not follow his lead. Brees should be inactive for the last two games at worst and put on IR at best.

As WhoDat656 has already pointed out, the games are meaningless. So running Brees out there is reckless stupidity.

We've already seen this happen this season. Brees should not have been out there for the 2nd half of the Bucs game at home.

Let's not make that same mistake again. The next meaningful game for the Saints is in September of 2016. Let Brees get healed up and get ready for that game.

SFIAH

He has nothing to prove. He's wants to play because he loves it and his career is coming to an end. :cool:

JPPT1974 12-25-2015 12:56 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
He does play because he loves it. But hope that he can really be healed as well. He is getting up in age.

vpheughan 12-25-2015 05:09 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
This would never happen to Tom Brady!!!!

Danno 12-25-2015 05:23 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
So if there isn't a chance for further injury, why sit him if he wants to play?

Crusader 12-25-2015 05:40 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
I think part of it also might be he is afraid of giving way to a younger guy. That how Brady got his break and Bledsoe was out the door.

WW_Who_Dat 12-25-2015 08:18 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Ok so just a couple of thought on Drew playing;

1. Hall of Fame QB with this injury just sat out 5 weeks but our Managment group is willing to send Drew out because he wants to play in a meaningless game on a team that is going 5-11.

2. So our Managment group will send out a seriously hobbled Hall of Fame QB with a OLINE that will insure Brees is carted off the field before the first half is over.

Seriously ... We are not seriously discussing this possibility. If the Powers that be allow this to happen someone needs to clean house. The last point on the decision making tree here is "Drew wants to Play".

foreverfan 12-25-2015 10:04 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Drew Brees: I'm going to play for Saints vs. Jags
By Gregg Rosenthal NFL Editor Publisher


"I'm gonna play," Brees said via Katherine Terrell of the New Orleans Times-Picayune.


SmashMouth 12-25-2015 10:42 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 686963)
So if there isn't a chance for further injury, why sit him if he wants to play?

Au contraire, mon frère ... there is greater chance for further more serious injury.

http://blackandgold.com/saints/75931...ctor-says.html

vpheughan 12-26-2015 09:06 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
How dare you cloud the issue with facts!!

Danno 12-26-2015 09:13 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 686982)
Au contraire, mon frère ... there is greater chance for further more serious injury.

http://blackandgold.com/saints/75931...ctor-says.html

Not according to the article you linked...

Quote:

David J. Chao, a former NFL head team physician who runs the @ProFootballDoc account on Twitter, wrote "there are no long-term consequences" to the injury. The main issue is pain tolerance and effectiveness, he wrote.

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-26-2015 09:18 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 686963)
So if there isn't a chance for further injury, why sit him if he wants to play?

Because there is no upside and a lot of downsides.

First and foremost he could be seriously injured because he is hobbled. It's reckless to risk the 2016 season at QB.

Second the games are meaningless. So even if a hobbled Brees give the team the best chance to win, what difference does it make?

Three is the simple fact that the organization needs to get some sense of the potential of Grayson. What better situation than two totally meaningless regular season games to get that?

I mean if Brees were within 10 games of Farve's starting streak, that may be one thing. But he's alredy missed a game this season.

There is no upside to having the franchise out there at less than 100%. Only bad things can happen.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-26-2015 09:32 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
More information. First is the current injury report:

Terron Armstead KNEE QUESTIONABLE
Ben Watson KNEE QUESTIONABLE
Drew Brees FOOT QUESTIONABLE
Zach Strief ✓ ELBOW QUESTIONABLE
Marques Colston ✓ CHEST QUESTIONABLE

So putting the franchise out there injured with two injured tackles seems like a good idea?

If Brees plays I'll spend the entire game SMDH in disbelief.

SFIAH

Thirty3 12-26-2015 11:30 AM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Doesn't want to give the rookie a chance. Job security.

QBREES9 12-26-2015 01:10 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Drew stop think of yourself. Sit your butt down. These are two meaningless games.

arsaint 12-26-2015 01:59 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
I LOVE the fact that Drew wants to play.


That being said, Sean better sit his tail on IR and let him get well.

If he's trade bait, you don't risk your investment on a team that is 5-9 and watching the playoffs on TV like the rest of us.

If he's your 2016 QB, you don't risk next season for the same reason.


Play whoever (Flynn or Grayson) and get this season over with...

Danno 12-26-2015 02:41 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
I think I'm now firmly on the "sit him" bandwagon.

He's hurt (If he wasn't hurt, he plays, end of story)
But since he's hurt...
We're out of the playoffs
We have a young QB that could use the experience
We have a young QB that could use some evaluation

As Brees ages little injuries like this are going to occur more and more.
We really need to evaluate/develop our back-ups. The last two games could tell us a lot about Grayson, or even Flynn.

We absolutely should have a Plan-B QB ready to step in just in case Drew misses several games.

You simply can not replicate game speed in practice or pre-season. Lets see what the kid's got.

What Payton needs is reassurance from Benson/Loomis that winning or losing these last two games won't effect his decision on coaching changes.

If Payton is 100% sure that he'll be back in 2016, he may be more comfortable with benching Brees these last two games.

WhoDat!656 12-26-2015 04:54 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 686961)
This would never happen to Tom Brady!!!!

The Saints, Patriots, kittens and Packers have one thing in common; if the QB goes down for any length of time both teams are screwed! I would have included Dallas but it is no great shock for them to lose WITH Romo playing.

WillSaints81 12-26-2015 05:11 PM

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Maybe Brees wants to play because he's hearing about the media and other team's fans doubting his ability to be a elite QB.

Rugby Saint II 12-26-2015 05:23 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 687023)
I think I'm now firmly on the "sit him" bandwagon.

He's hurt (If he wasn't hurt, he plays, end of story)
But since he's hurt...
We're out of the playoffs
We have a young QB that could use the experience
We have a young QB that could use some evaluation

As Brees ages little injuries like this are going to occur more and more.
We really need to evaluate/develop our back-ups. The last two games could tell us a lot about Grayson, or even Flynn.

We absolutely should have a Plan-B QB ready to step in just in case Drew misses several games.

You simply can not replicate game speed in practice or pre-season. Lets see what the kid's got.

What Payton needs is reassurance from Benson/Loomis that winning or losing these last two games won't effect his decision on coaching changes.

If Payton is 100% sure that he'll be back in 2016, he may be more comfortable with benching Brees these last two games.



You sir are right on all points Danno.

But Drew also needs to believe that he will get the same contract offer regardless of his injury status these last two weeks. This offseason is the right time to extend Drew's contract and Loomis has been waiting to renegotiate in 2016.

voodooido 12-26-2015 06:15 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 686913)
And what if he aggravates the injury playing in 2 meaningless games?

Might as well find out what we have in Flynn and Garrett

Play him. If he hurts it any worse so what. He will have 8 months to heal. Why sit him??? Not like he will need to be healthy for the playoffs. He is being paid 30 million. Lets have him earn it. Lord knows they have put Saint fans in pain with the play this year.

voodooido 12-26-2015 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 687009)
Doesn't want to give the rookie a chance. Job security.

This is a joke right? It's not like we have Luck sitting in the wings.

713Saint 12-30-2015 03:35 PM

Re: Drew Brees in ‘horrible, miserable pain,’ still wants to play
 
Sounds more like he wants to pad his stats for the season. He makes selfish decisions at times. Like the time he clearly injured his shoulder but wouldn't come out of game and through several interceptions. When you begin hurting the team because you want to play injured is not smart by any means. He may be the face of the team but this is still a team sport. The "Team" comes first. If he had no backup, I could understand him wanting to play, but this is Drew just being selfish. (IMO)


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